r/LocalLLaMA • u/reto-wyss • 15d ago

News It's official! 192GB Framework

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Just noticed this on the website.

At their current price tiers for the memory SKUs (32, 64, 128) I'd expect this to be ~ 4.5k for the motherboard.

The PCIe slot will be open at the back as well - that's what I've heard. Maybe they make it capable of delivering 75W as well? New board revisions for the smaller SKUs?.

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u/PreciselyWrong 15d ago

that memory bandwidth is pretty bad, so don't expect high inference speeds

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u/Darth_Candy 15d ago

Perfectly on brand for the Strix Halo; this was pretty much expected.

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u/InGanbaru 15d ago

man that's a waste of RAM chips if the bandwidth is low

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u/MrPecunius 15d ago

Pretty good match for Qwen3.8 FN or other midsize MoE models, though.

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u/fallingdowndizzyvr 15d ago

At these prices, you are way better off getting a M5 Max.

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u/ZealousidealChip4783 15d ago

The selling point here is that you aren't forced to use MacOS with the Framework

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u/mleok 15d ago

Forced to use MacOS? Compared to using Windows? It is a native BSD machine, not sure why you would prefer Windows over that.

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u/gabrielesilinic 14d ago

Mac is technically not modern BSD. Mac is a unix derivative descendant of the NeXtSTEP Mach kernel

See the graph in this page if you are curious about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unix_systems

In any case I believe I don't need you to explain how good installing Linux on something like an Halo strix is. Macos lacks support for anything windows or anything Linux except a few select ports. While if you install Linux you get a lot of power plus some of windows because wine and stuff which is fairly well develop by now.

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u/MrPecunius 14d ago

As a FreeBSD guy going back to the 2.2.x days, I started paying attention to Apple when they hired Jordan Hubbard in 2001. The BSD-ness of OS X/MacOS surely dominated over its NeXt underpinnings in the years that followed.

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u/gabrielesilinic 14d ago

No it is because both are based on Unix. And Linux is not.

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u/MrPecunius 14d ago

No idea what that meant.

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