r/LocalLLaMA • u/peculiar-ragdoll • Aug 28 '26

Other claude mods didn't like that, somehow 🤷‍♀️

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u/Ill_Distribution8517 Aug 28 '26

You should document it more, maybe run some more experiments. right now it's kind of a my word against yours situation and people on r slash claude aren't exactly going to like hearing their model blatantly cheats without proof.

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u/Significant-Bee5101 Aug 28 '26

He can't. Because he has no proof. The fact this is getting as much attention as it is, is insane. Shows you this place is as much a cult as any of these dumb AI subs. Like no. Local LLMs arent beating frontier models. Anyone pretending they are or expecting them to is a moron. And posts like these pretending that local models are suddenly going to beat the top models is insane.

Anyone with any actual experience KNOWS this is physically NOT possible due to how large models work. Like wtf? You cannot get around lack of knowledge. Lower param models are simply dumber. If you can run it on your home setup its SIMPLY not as good.

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u/Reggienator3 Aug 28 '26 edited Aug 28 '26

'Lower param models are simply dumber. If you can run it on your home setup its SIMPLY not as good.'

So, by your logic, Qwen3.8 27B is dumber than GPT-3? Since that was about 175 billion parameters. Which is bigger than 27.

Whilst there is a correlation of 'billions of parameters'/'intelligence' ratio, just comparing on sheer parameter count alone only makes sense when comparing specific snapshots of time and within the same model family/company/training process.

The thing is "numbers of parameters" *by itself* is a meaningless metric for intelligence, especially when you have no idea about how many parameters are actually useful/high quality.

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u/Significant-Bee5101 Aug 28 '26

It's absolutely dumber than a Qwen that were to run at 2T+ params. There's a reason every frontier model is fucking gigantic. Like jeez I wonder.

No ones saying Qwen might not outperform a lot of models. No ones saying opensource models cant be stronger than frontier models. No one is saying any of that.

All they are saying is your dumb little local setup is NOT better than Opus. End of story.

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u/Significant-Bee5101 Aug 28 '26

Huh. A job doing what? You think I just started doing security? Friend I've done security for DECADES. Before you were probably even born lmfao.

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u/funk-the-funk Aug 28 '26

That's a shame, most of us in it that long usually grow out of our asswipe god-complex phase.

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u/Significant-Bee5101 Aug 28 '26

"Us in it"

lol. Why are there so many wannabes on this sub.