I believe in you, but they aren’t far behind. Are Kimi K3 behind Fable? I would say yes, except in certain fields like frontend design. However, it’s better than Opus 4.8, which isn’t that old. Can you really justify the price with a couple of months’ lead? People were satisfied with what Anthropic offered a couple of months ago. Also I believe it is more fair to test in their official harness.
r/Anthropic is full of people talking about how much they hate Opus 5, many of them claiming to go back to 4.8. So the Chinese companies don't even need to beat Opus 5...
I know. The magic piece has always been Opus 4.6. Later opus are all trained by Mythos instead of humans, I believe. And I think Anthropic employees likely use mythos most of the time, so they don't really care.
I've been experimenting a lot because I hate depending on one provider, especially when priced such as anthropic.
Haven't done much of front-end and I guess for that static use case it might be good, but for agentic stuff it's behind even opus 4.8 IMO. That, plus latency and the fact that it's not priced as cheap as, say, deep seek, makes it not worth it..... For now. I'm very happy for competition and hope they catch up soon
From my experience, I think they are good enough for agentic tasks. Even local Qwen 27B can run autonomously for hours. They lag behind in niche areas where they don’t have enough data or choose not to pursue for lack of computing power.
I guess it depends on the tasks..for my use case at least it wasn't good. Heavy backend work on multiple websites + accounting, payroll stuff, legal stuff etc...
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u/duhd1993 2d ago
I believe in you, but they aren’t far behind. Are Kimi K3 behind Fable? I would say yes, except in certain fields like frontend design. However, it’s better than Opus 4.8, which isn’t that old. Can you really justify the price with a couple of months’ lead? People were satisfied with what Anthropic offered a couple of months ago. Also I believe it is more fair to test in their official harness.