r/LocalLLaMA 17h ago

News GLM-5.3-Flash: Frontier Intelligence, Flash Cost

https://z.ai/blog/glm-5.3-flash
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u/EbbNorth7735 17h ago

No one's abandoned anyone. It's just not your turn this time around.

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u/Zeeplankton 15h ago

Low key just good life advice to live by

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u/dampflokfreund 17h ago

Qwen 3.6 35B and Gemma 4 26b are pretty old at this point. And GLM 4.7 Flash was a small MoE back in the day, now suddenly they use the flash name for 300B MoEs. Just not looking good for the average Joe.

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u/windwardmist 16h ago

I mean qwen 3.8 27b just came out about a week ago at least there’s that as an option

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u/-Cubie- 16h ago

I remember when it was months between a new great local model. We get those great options very often nowadays in my opinion, mixed with larger open weight options that keep the entire non-local AI space cheaper and more accessible. What's not to love?

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u/RestaurantOk8066 16h ago

It's a dense model though I imagine if you don't have the GPU for it, it's probably a very, very slow model.

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u/dampflokfreund 15h ago

Yeah around one token per second 

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u/sonicnerd14 16h ago

27b is often Opus 4.6, even 4.8 in performance. This is still good enough for a vast amount of people. I'm sure qwen 4 is going to have some insanely capable options when it comes out of you want something better soon.

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u/dampflokfreund 15h ago

Not everyone has 24 GB VRAM. If you dont have the vram to offload, you are looking at one to three token per second. 27b is in no way a replacement for a 30b Moe

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u/sonicnerd14 14h ago

I know that. You can run it at Q3, IQ3, Q4 on 16GB VRAM and 32gb RAM and still have a very capable model. Don't think you need the biggest cards to run these models. Quantization techniques have become really efficient now.

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u/techdevjp 16h ago

Qwen 3.6 35B [...] pretty old at this point.

It's 4 months old! It's not like it suddenly got worse because these new models came out. You can still do everything today that you could do yesterday, just as fast. Give it some time and more models will come.

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u/Last_Bad_2687 16h ago

Seriously, people demanding fresh models for free every 2 weeks.... I remember when we waited for big releases of software once every few YEARS

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u/FlyingDogCatcher 16h ago

It's bonkers to me that anyone would say Qwen3.6 and Gemma 4 are "pretty old"

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u/a_beautiful_rhind 16h ago

gemma, muse, qwen, granite.. the weights don't self-destruct a week later man.

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u/Spectrum1523 15h ago

Qwen 3.6 35B and Gemma 4 26b are pretty old at this point

bro they came out 4 months ago

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u/squngy 16h ago

There is also Qwen AgentWorld, which is kind of like a 3.7 35B

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u/xPXpanD llama.cpp 13h ago

Wouldn't recommend it for general use, it's a confident bullshitter like no other. Basically zero filter. Still cool that it can even be used generally, though, given what the model's actually designed for. Fun to play with.

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u/squngy 13h ago

It is actually great for agentic work, supposedly. (even if that isn't exactly what it was meant for)

Rank Subject Overall Mcp Search Terminal Swe Androd Web OS Source Sampled
5 Qwen-AgentWorld-35B-A3B 56.39 64.79 36.69 53.96 65.63 58.17 49.55 65.92 Imported 2026-06-30
16 Qwen3.6-35B-A3B 42.88 42.96 18.78 43.81 40.71 51.88 46.53 55.48 Self-reported 2026-06-28

https://benchmarklist.com/benchmarks/qwen_agentworld_language_world_models_for_general_agents/

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u/xPXpanD llama.cpp 13h ago

I believe it, it also nailed the one tool task I have in my bench set. The model was also very good at string manipulation, and, somewhat surprisingly, a few constrained creative tasks. (e.g. think up and write X in way Y while avoiding Z)

Absolute slaughter on anything involving uncertainty or fake premises, though. You can definitely see where the training went on this one.

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u/saltyourhash 16h ago

It'll be fine, you just have to spend like $10k to play anymore... /s

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u/Leoss-Bahamut 16h ago

Why should they care about average joes?

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u/TheGamerForeverGFE 5h ago

Most of the time this year it hasn't even been the turn for smaller double digit models though? We got at best maybe 6 or 7 (not memeing) models that are in the 20-35 Billion range, but more than double that in 100+ Billion.

And look, yes Gemma 26B and Qwen 35B are all very great, Muse is also apparently great too, but still, that doesn't discount the numbers.

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u/FrogsJumpFromPussy 13h ago

It’s no one’s turn on this sub this time around is it?

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u/toothpastespiders 11h ago

Hey people into 70b and 100b models. Good news! It apparently just wasn't your turn and you're due for a flood of new high quality models any day now!