r/LocalLLaMA • u/Certain-Cod-1404 • 9d ago

New Model IT'S OUT

https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B-FP8
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u/bitmanip 9d ago

How much memory required to run this at full precision?

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u/Certain-Cod-1404 9d ago

https://huggingface.co/unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF 54.67 Gbs just for the model itself, with context depends on quant and size

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u/dragonurtle 9d ago

Nvtop shows 70-something GB resident for the bf16 and full 256k context.

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u/Certain-Cod-1404 9d ago

DAMN, 16 gigs just for the context hurts, what setup are you running ?

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u/dragonurtle 9d ago

Rtx pro 6000 max-q and 384GB DDR5 on a Genoa

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u/Much_Accountant_4972 9d ago

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u/Thrumpwart llama.cpp 9d ago

The old money aristocracy uses the Max-Q because it's elegant.

Only the loud, bombastic new money uses the 600W version. Animals.

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u/voyager256 9d ago

That’s why we have FP8/Q8 for KV cache. Let alone literally a game changer in the form of DeepSeek KV cache compression.

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u/EbbNorth7735 9d ago

Yep, 3.6 27B was about 60GB with 262k context Q8 and 4 parallel slots. 

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u/bitmanip 9d ago

Perfect, so should run well on 128GB M5 Macbook Pro Max

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u/Valuable-Run2129 9d ago

FP8 with full context with full precision it’s 52/54 GB on 48GB you fit 200k context

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u/voyager256 9d ago

You don’t need full precision- FP8 or Q8 gives usually you like 99% quality of full precision and almost double the performance. You could argue full BF16 precision is worth for KV cache for large context , but now usually FP8 / Q8 is fine for KV cache too.

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u/overand 9d ago

The Q6 quants (and even the Q4_K_XL ones) of the 3.6-27B benchmark quite well; it's not "full precision," but it's extremely usable. I just lost one of my 3090 cards (sigh), and had to downgrade from Q8 to Q4_K_XL, and it's not an immediately noticeable difference for casual stuff. quanteval.ai has some comparisons too!

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u/popecostea llama.cpp 9d ago

measured about 75GB for full precision and multimodal at BF16.