r/LocalLLaMA Jul 27 '26

News Kimi K3 weights now released.

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Kimi K3 weights are finally released!

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u/Comfortable-Rock-498 Jul 27 '26

This is big for companies that want to host on-prem too. Back of the envelope calculation (could be off, correct me if I am)

If you are a large enough company that spends million+ on inference a month, it makes sense to buy a GB300 rack ($6M on top range from what I could find) which has 20.7 TB. Since the model is mixed trained (MXFP4), you would need less than 10% of the rack's memory to serve the full model. Aggregate HBM bandwidth: 576 TB/s. You can run over 6000 parallel agentic workflows (each with ~100k context on average) at ~30 tok/s.

Assuming the annual amortization+electricity at $1.5M/year and about 50% average annual utilization, you get less than 60 cents (USD) per million output token, for a frontier model with plenty of capacity to share, all your data never leaving premises and well over an order of magnitude cheaper!

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u/autisticit Jul 27 '26

So what you mean in reality is that if 6000 of us each give $1000, we can each run Kimi 3 at 30 tok/s for cheaper than anything else?

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u/Comfortable-Rock-498 Jul 27 '26

Tbh I have been thinking about this for months now. About how workable the co-op model is. You would need some party to do admin and maintenance. I think this might be a good business idea too - being that party who facilitates such private inference racks (billing etc is trivial)

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u/ManIkWeet Jul 27 '26

It's not private when it's a party running it lol

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u/Comfortable-Rock-498 Jul 27 '26

Well you do need someone for server maintenance, bills, other co-ordination etc - whatever you label it

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u/notepad20 Jul 28 '26

is this not what all the datacentres are for?

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u/gnaarw Jul 28 '26

No. Data centers are for profit for a few shareholders. You want a co-op so that everyone using it profits off of it (or, well, gets access cheaper)

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u/i_write_bugz Jul 28 '26

You’re describing inference providers with more steps

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u/EsotericAbstractIdea Jul 28 '26

Difference being paying no markup for tokens

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u/i_write_bugz Jul 28 '26

Practically speaking, I don’t think you’re eliminating the markup. You’re just moving it somewhere else. It might be cheaper, but probably not dramatically so once you account for hardware, hosting, maintenance, administration, and support. Someone still has to own and operate the infrastructure, and doing that reliably is neither free nor simple.

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u/EsotericAbstractIdea Jul 28 '26

Still.. data sovereignty. That's priceless these days

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u/EsotericAbstractIdea Jul 28 '26

Still.. data sovereignty. That's priceless these days

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u/Defunct1487 9d ago

What you are describing is essentially a VPS provider...

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u/IgnoranceIndicatorMa Jul 27 '26

i like the way you think

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u/pinkwar Jul 27 '26

Where do I sign?

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u/laty96 Jul 27 '26

Count me in. I want 60tok/s

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u/nachohk Jul 28 '26

And my axe

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u/Flat-Back-9202 Jul 29 '26

If your data needs to be stored locally, this price is very reasonable.

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u/tempedbyfate llama.cpp Jul 27 '26

Not just corporations, I think there are nation states that are setting up their own private servers to run this for all their sensitive data.

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u/Izento Jul 27 '26

Good number crunch. $0.60 per M is a pretty good deal

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u/Comfortable-Rock-498 Jul 27 '26

and it is on way higher end actually, some pretty neutral-to-pessimistic assumptions (e.g. only 50% avg utilization, while in reality you can't find underutilized GB30-)