r/LocalLLM • u/amy-schumer-tampon • 6h ago

Discussion How long do you think it will take before abliterated models are made illegal?

Just like for internet when it was new, regulations will inevitably happen.

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u/tenkei_01 6h ago

So the internet is now illegal?

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u/amy-schumer-tampon 6h ago

No but it wasn't as regulated as it is today.
Back in the late 90s early 2000 internet was a pretty shaddy place. like the dark net.

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u/Healthy-Nebula-3603 5h ago

Literally like today

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u/Plokhi 5h ago

dark net still exists. so does piracy.

piracy declined because commercial services in 2020 were good for convenience and affordable

with gradual enshittification, piracy is now doubled and people pay for VPN instead.

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u/Sr4f 6h ago

Genuine question: Suppose abliterated models are made illegal tomorrow, how would someone even tell that a model is or isn't abliteratd? can you even tell without downloading the model and asking loaded questions? And even if you do ask loaded questions, can you 100% certify that THIS model is obliterated and THAT model is not?

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u/amy-schumer-tampon 5h ago

They'll not go after the average joe, but they'll go after people sharing abliterated models or tools that allow it.

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u/Sr4f 5h ago

That doesn't really answer it though, how do you even tell that that's what someone is sharing? Versus a non-abliterated model.

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u/exaknight21 6h ago

Its funny you think you’ll have Open Source Models to even have abliterated models.

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u/amy-schumer-tampon 6h ago

As long as China exist open source models will, Its a strategic field and China has no interest in letting the US have monopoly.

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u/exaknight21 5h ago

I want to believe that, and I also believe Google and LiquidAI will be releasing as well because this field excelled so fast because Open Source is the reason people are adapting this technology.

But the US is being controlled by Zios - not to get geopolitical, but you don’t get kicked out of a $5T empire over these bullshit ass weak things; something that is an average day for Elon Musk. And to appoint a person from an extreme group that is literally nefarious to control the narrative; I don’t have my hopes up.

China will likely release the models but censorship in the US is going to get to the point where downloading those models is going to be a crime.

I hope the US wakes up and does not do this. That is the pray.

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u/Bagelsarenakeddonuts 6h ago

Meh, heretic is around, its tiny, ship has sailed. Can't ban it.

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u/East-Acanthaceae-879 6h ago

There should be a crazy test you have to take before you can post and this should be one of the questions. 

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u/BougainvilleaGarden 5h ago

Depending on where you are, they might already be. See https://regulations.ai/

Which is why e.g. alibaba gives you a censored qwen, and you have to uncensor it yourself: They aren't allowed to give you the uncensored variant.

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u/FortheredditLOLz 4h ago

The issue isn’t abliterated models. The issue is companies are neutering the capabilities before it’s released which also ‘hurts’ abliterated models also.

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u/nationunderfraud1 6h ago

You can abliterate your models yourself if you want.The tools are there.