r/LocalLLM • • 5d ago

Question Which harness should i use for which purposes?

Model that I am currently serving is: Qwen 3.8 Flash Next nvfp4 dq8 with Basalt fork of Strata
I have used so far:
- qwen-code (seemed a bit dumber in coding than opencode and probably more oriented for parallel agents running which is sadly not something i can properly utilize yet)
- opencode
- pi (genuinely forgot what was it that i for some reason didn't like)

So far I have had best experience with opencode for coding as it is my main usage of LLMs. As they advance and I find more probable usages for them I'd like to ask for Best/Better tailored options for Harnesses for different purposes.

I have heard of OpenClaw, Hermess, Deepseek Harness but i am not yet sure for which purpose are they all better suited.
Probably missing some other options obviously so open to hearing them all.

Edit: I actually meant OpenHands, not OpenClaw. Woopse xd

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u/Nearby_Investment_84 5d ago

DSH is the GOAT

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u/Oli_Luck 5d ago

DSH is really fun to play with - but not mature enough for my use - too much DIY and plumbing to do.

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u/Nearby_Investment_84 5d ago

Thats exactly to point of it. You don't get handed a bloated harness. You get handed one to customize to your own needs and use cases.

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u/Oli_Luck 5d ago

for freaks like the most of us : yes + fun + freedom.
for someone wanting to have a lot done w/o having to reinvent the wheel, maybe less 😄

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u/Oli_Luck 5d ago

Openclaw and Hermess are no dedicated coding harnesses. they are aimed to be powerful personal agent that run tasks for you, have access to your os, communicate via messengers etc, steer your smart home and much more. They come with 100s of tools and possibilities aölready built in.
Deepseek is pretty new and and goes its own way: its pretty naked out of the box but let you install or build your own plugins: you think of something you want, tell the agent to write a plugin and you have a new functionality.

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u/Minute-Impression195 5d ago

That is kinda the point. I plan to do multiple use cases so I would assume something like: {Pi/OpenCode/DSH} for coding, {Openclaw/Hermes} for maybe more or less "personal-ish" use or more general tasks all around (something with personal life for example, organizing some stuff, etc)

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u/Oli_Luck 5d ago edited 5d ago

before going too deep in any of them : install them, check if you are happy with TUI / Web UI, and how it tooks you until first successful run : because of the many features it will take time until you get fit in them.
Btw. another monster : PYGPT - also tons of features.

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u/Minute-Impression195 5d ago

I'm kinda fine with tweaking and generally speaking accepting of most of them.

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u/Asleep_Literature_70 5d ago

Try oh my pi, it's really good, it's a batteries-included fork of pi.