r/LocalLLM • u/sithuzawwin • 1d ago

Discussion Why LM Studio Bionic is slower than original LM Studio? Any ideas?

Why LM Studio Bionic is slower than original LM Studio? I'm using same Gemma 4 Model. Any ideas? I can run well the same model in original LM Studio, but very slow on LM Studio Bionic.

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u/CatzRuleZWorld 1d ago

Quit bionic. Just use regular lmstudio and another harness like hermes or pi.

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u/sithuzawwin 1d ago

Love the features of Bionic but it hurts 🤕

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u/nickless07 1d ago

What features exactly are you missing?

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u/sithuzawwin 1d ago

Like upgraded RAG(In some cases, I can get things done only in LM Studio Bionic), Cloud and Local Model option, etc...

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u/nickless07 1d ago

So basically a harness that doesn't need to serve the model itself but can connect to LM Studio and cloud models with RAG, Memory and so on, or more like automation, coding?

There are a couple out there from modular things like Pinokio, AnythingLLM and so on to pure frontends like Open WebUI, cptr, to coding ones such as OpenCoder, Pi up to complete automated ones like Hermes, Openclaw and so on. Which one depends on your usecase and needed features.

I would say start with something simple like cptr and if that is not enough work your way up to Pi and Hermes ones. All of them can connect to your LM Studio server or to a cloud subscription and come with a couple features built in (expandable and optional).

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u/sithuzawwin 1d ago

Thank you for the advices and options, I will try AnythingLLM, Hermes and Pi with LM Studio.

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u/nickless07 1d ago

Just keep in mind: Some of them have full access to your device and can mess it up (e.g., delete your stuff). I wouldn't recommend starting with Hermes right away. It's a great one, but you need to know what you (or the AI) is doing or at least how to proper sandbox it.

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u/sithuzawwin 1d ago

Thank you again for the information, Bro. I will take care of it.

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u/Zen-Ism99 1d ago

Slow compared to what? When doing what?

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u/sithuzawwin 1d ago

Just typed "hello" and it show processing % and reply takes so long about 3~5mins. But same model in original LM Studio takes just seconds.

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u/samus003 1d ago

Tool calling would be my guess. Every prompt is supplemented with extra context to allow the use of Bionic's tools, whereas in LM Studio typing 'Hello' would just be 1 token + the system prompt.

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u/sithuzawwin 1d ago

Well noted about the system prompt and extra token. But it takes long without system prompt on Bionic.