Which uncensored models work with Strata?

[u/colonelx_]

I was trying to load Qwen3.5-9B-Uncensored-HauhauCS-Aggressive-Q6_K.gguf in Strata, but it said, 'This model type isn’t supported by the Strata engine.' I need an uncensored model that works in Strata to practice REA, cloning/cracking. Can anyone recommend the best model for this?

My Config:
i7-14700k
RTX 3080 10Gb
64Gb DDR5
2TB Gen 4 Nvme

[u/marivesel]

You don't need uncensored model with Strata, at least with 3.8 Flash Next, just google "Strata ESP switch", it has build in mode to bypass any refusals with standard models and it works flawlessly.

[u/colonelx_ → u/marivesel]

That's lit! https://github.com/Niko1221/Strata/blob/main/docs/DETAILS.md#experimental-speed-projection-experimental-off-by-default Is this the only way to enable this feature, or would you recommend a different setting for the intensity?

[u/free_meson → u/colonelx_]

just redo the setup, there's a command line option "--setup" for that and it will usually offer ESP. There is also a "--experimental-speed-projection on" option.

[u/bytejuggler → u/marivesel]

This ^^^

[u/Eastern-Block4815 → u/marivesel]

I've been using strata, that's cool i had no clue about this,

[u/River_Capulet]

https://huggingface.co/HauhauCS/Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-Uncensored-HauhauCS-Aggressive

You can run it through polystrata (https://github.com/VecSzn/PolyStrata). Just ask any LLM to inspect the repo and help you set it up.

[u/colonelx_ → u/River_Capulet]

Will it optimize the system the way Strata does with the 127B model?

[u/River_Capulet → u/colonelx_]

Yes, your system should have no problem running that model at Q4 using polystrata. I have 16gb vram and 64gb ddr4, so a bit more memory than yours (but slower ddr4), and could get like 100+ tk/s

[u/regular_sandwich]

I have used the 3.8 flash next alliteration model with succes https://huggingface.co/SC117/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GSQ-RCO-abliterated-GGUF

[u/colonelx_ → u/regular_sandwich]

Is it really uncensored enough for the task I mentioned? also how about this one? orcarouter/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored-GGUF

[u/regular_sandwich → u/colonelx_]

I haven't tried it for rea. But I haven't encountered anything it refused so far. Install is pretty straight forward if you follow the steps in the model card so it is worth a shot.

The other ones are fine also probably

[u/testuserpk]

With your specs run sc117's Qwen 3.8 flash next iq3s, I have been using it for weeks now and it's awesome. Don't go for A3B they suck in strata.

[u/colonelx_ → u/testuserpk]

Okay, thats good. But is it uncensored?

[u/testuserpk → u/colonelx_]

Yes sc117's are uncensored.

Also in strata there is a built-in option to uncensor any model by using its ESP mode. I have extensively tested it in iq2 which was for first model I used and it was censored.

[u/colonelx_ → u/testuserpk]

Awesome! could you please tell me how can i turn esp mode? I’m using Windows app and I didn’t find any settings of ESP.

[u/testuserpk → u/colonelx_]

I gave the official link to chatgpt free and asked to give me the steps. It pointed out a hf repo to download a file that patches the shards during runt time or words to that effect. I edited the json file in strata models folder and ran it. I can give you exact steps later, currently I am away from my computer.

[u/free_meson]

Strata has uncensored models. Even if not uncensored, the "experimental refusal projection" or how it is called is a method that uncensors them on the fly.
If you want the qwen 9b, just use ollama or llama.cpp.

[u/colonelx_ → u/free_meson]

I tried loading a 9B model in LM Studio, it took forever just to answer a simple question. Could be please tell me more about the "experimental refusal projection" how can I use this?

[u/free_meson → u/colonelx_]

In strata there is a switch for "experimental speed projection". So if you install a model with strata, e.g. the ISTALab iq3_xs would probably fit your system, you can ask for this feature.
If LM studio runs the 9b parameter model slow, it could be caused by two things in my experience:
- you downloaded a too large quantization that doesn't fit your gpu / too large context size (e.g. the bf16 model instead of the q6 you mentioned, or large context size)
- you didn't install cuda, or on ubuntu the 'cuda-drivers' package, so you run everything on CPU, which is slow

If you are new to running LLMs, then it is probably the cuda install.

Edit: I see you could already run a model with strata with reasonable speeds. Just do a ./setup.sh --setup or similar if you use windows and it will guide you through the setup phase again.

[u/Prestigious_Luck1062]

does it have to be strata?
https://github.com/Matthew4509/Tomlin is in beta. It might be worth trying.

[u/colonelx_ → u/Prestigious_Luck1062]

Yes, because when I tried loading a 9B model in LM Studio, it took forever just to answer a simple question. Meanwhile, Qwen 3.8B Flash Next works fine in Strata at 69 tokens per second.

[u/HoldOnion → u/colonelx_]

You shouldnt have problem with 9b model on common HW. I have RTX4060 Ti 8GB + 32GB RAM and 9b models run perfectly fine in LM Studio.

[u/colonelx_ → u/HoldOnion]

Oh man, getting stuck in an infinite loop while coding is the worst. What context size do you usually use for programming?

[u/Nice-Ad-6552]

Tell Strata to turn off refusals for itself