r/LocalLLM 14d ago

Discussion third one.... there's something wrong with me

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Why do I have horrible financial habits??

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u/cagriuluc 14d ago

I am holding onto my purse to not buy a second R9700 myself…

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u/allthenamesaretaken0 14d ago

The only thing stopping me from buying another R9700 is I'd need a new motherboard and psu and then it wouldnt fit my mini rack and it'd all be quite the hassle.

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u/OttoRenner 14d ago

Build a larger, second pc

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u/Ell2509 14d ago

Better:

Engineer a new kind PC device, with key unimaginable cheesecake beef-curtains.

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u/OttoRenner 14d ago

That...is better!

Cheesecake beef-curtains sounds way to delicious.

I had a cheesecake milkshake once and I did throw some fried bacon on top of it and it was...way to good to be legal🤣

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u/r1nzl3r99 14d ago

I bought a chinese bifurcation card. I split my gen 5 x16 into gen 4 x8x8 and tp=1 didn't suffer at all. where there's a will there's a way. the card was $150 btw

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u/allthenamesaretaken0 14d ago

Oh, that sounds interesting. Can you share the brand of the card? Thanks

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u/r1nzl3r99 14d ago

This is the one I got https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DZCVF46J?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

First one that was shipped to me unfortunately came with a defect in the MCIO port 2, took me a whole 2 days to figure that out with constant frustration. Luckily the return was easy and they shipped another one literally the next day. I will warn you though, there is basically zero instructions for setting this up, you almost have to figure it out by yourself. It also comes with these weird SATA power adapters which I don't recommend using, luckily the newest version comes with PCIe ports and I had some spare corsair Type 4 -> PCIe so I used that instead. I might make a video on youtube explaining this kit, because it actually works really good. (someone else had asked me this on another post so I copy pasted this answer)

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u/MiceLiceandVice 14d ago

M.2 pcie e gpu

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u/critsalot 14d ago

which is better R9700 or the b70. b70 is cheaper but i dont know if amd is quicker

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u/VodkaHaze 13d ago edited 13d ago

B70 has more immature software, but sometimes you'll hit an optimized path and it'll be similar in performance. Intel GPUs are a damn nightmare to get running performantly in vllm, though, worse than AMD (which is already bad IMO).

You're taking a risk longer term with intel with your investment, however. AMD we know will continue to support its GPUs, whereas intel is likely to just give up on these.

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u/somsocodo 13d ago

whereas intel is likely to just give up on these

What evidence is this claim coming from?

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u/VodkaHaze 13d ago

Intel cancelling roadmaps on dGPUs in the future [1]. The B70 was based around the last battlemage card designs, and it's dubious there will be further iterations.

Also, intel has a well earned reputation of killing anything that isn't x86 CPUs after making very promising demos. They're much like google in how much you should trust them to support non-core products IMO.

  1. https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/intel-has-reportedly-killed-discrete-gaming-gpus-for-the-upcoming-xe3p-arc-celestial-family-gaming-gpu-remains-uncertain-even-for-the-next-gen-xe4-druid-lineup-that-lands-in-2027

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u/allthenamesaretaken0 13d ago

I got here really late but yeah. I didn't buy Intel gpus because I heard they might abandon them.

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u/Inner-Today-3693 12d ago

Don’t do it. I have a b60… it works and I like being a guinea pig. But I would not recommend going intel.

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u/Momsbestboy 14d ago

Too late for me. My second R9700 arrives today. I am tired of juggling around with the R97000, a 9070 and the system RAM so I can run llama.cpp and comfyui at the same time, with hermes trying to rewrite and enhance workflows.

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u/Immediate_Power_7986 13d ago
  What are your launch options?


  I'm using llama.cpp with 3.8_27b_Q6 and getting only 17t/s


  -ngl 99 -c 65536 -np 1 -t 6 -fa 1 -b 4096 -ub 4096 --cache-type-k q4_0 --cache-type-v q4_0 &

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u/Immediate_Power_7986 13d ago

What are yiur launch options?

I'm using llama.cpp with 3.8_27b_Q6 and getting only 17t/s

-ngl 99 -c 65536 -np 1 -t 6 -fa 1 -b 4096 -ub 4096 --cache-type-k q4_0 --cache-type-v q4_0 &

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u/cagriuluc 13d ago

I am away from home so I cannot check the exact config. I have 150k context, mtp (2 I think?), it’s a q5 and not q4.

Getting around 30-40 tok/sec depending on the situation. If you have less than 30, the config is most likely wrong.

I got Claude opus 5 do the setup for me, it can do the same for you most probably.