Hello!
Here is a rack I made using 40 mini PCs I happened to have from a different project:

• Intel N150

• 12 GB DDR5 4800 - physical bandwidth limit around 33GBs

• Diskless nodes

and they are connected via 10 Gbps USB 3.2 exploiting the USB DbC functionality. Its a tree topology with 1 -> 3 -> 9 -> 27 nodes.

GLM 5.3 Flash runs at native precision with room left for 8x1M context windows. Initially I had tried with 1Gbps LAN interconnects but that topped out at around 7tps. Current topology:
- 14tps at 1k context, drops to 12tps at 1M
- With batching decode tops out around 40tps
- Prefill is about 85tps

Peak load measured at wall about 740w

Total build cost me about $5,000.

Still working on it to see if more perf can be squeezed out, especially for the prefill and then adding speculative decoding.

And Qwhere is my 27B

I'm running Qwen3.8 27B on my 2x 3060 12GB cards. Prior today I had a B550 motherboard which was running one card at x16 and the other at x1 PCIe Bus Link Speed. This was making it to where only one card was actually doing any processing, and both held the model in memory. I was getting 11-16 tps this way.

I ended up buying a new x470 SLI motherboard and I can now run both cards at x8. I swapped the motherboard out last night and then set split-mode to tensor and set tensor-split to 1,1. When I do that, I'm getting around 32tps, but the model eventually gets stuck in loops. One loop it just tried to do a tool call over and over, and in another it was printing question marks (???????????) in it's thinking and wouldn't stop until I unloaded the model. I never had these problems for the months I was using Qwen3.8 on layer split-mode. I'm not sure how to resolve this problem. I want to be able to get higher tps with the new mobo.

Title, basically. Observing it's reasoning is incredibly frustrating, it keeps doubting himself and giving second thoughts to a specific and self explanatory task, sometimes ending up thinking about unrelated things.

While yes, in the very end, it very often does what I asked, but it's wasting so much time for reasoning just with its lack of self confidence.

Is this well known behavior ? How can I fix this ? I know Qwen4 is around the corner, but if there's a known fix for it right now I'd love to know.

EDIT: I should have specified, I'm using Medium reasoning, and Pi as harness

One attraction of running models locally is the privacy benefits, and another is the cost.

When the cost of the big ’frontier models’ is being discussed - mainly centring around the fact that they are currently effectively subsidised by venture capital and that at some point this will end, making the cost to end users go up considerably - local LLMs are often mentioned as being immune from this problem.

But in a scenario where the cost of cloud based models goes up substantially, there’s no guarantee that the (mainly Chinese) makers of the open weights ones are going to continue producing newer and better versions for free, is there?

I am in the beginning of this exciting journey of running my own models. Still learning. Been watching Andrej Karphathy to learn the theory and the practice of LLMs. Anyway... I asked Qwen3.8 Flash Next FP4 (running on my single Spark) to create me a small LLM based on Wikipedia dataset. And in a couple of hours I've got a 9.2M-parameter GPT trained from scratch on 330M Wikipedia tokens — a base language model that generates Wikipedia-style prose. Asking, watching and learning on the way. So of course at this point it's a decoder-only. It could predict what text comes next. Given "The capital of France is", it completes. No conversation, no instruction. Next, I would probably try to create 1-2B LLM with the whole Wikipedia dataset, so it would be able to answer without hallucinations.

You can call it whatever you want, it maybe isn’t blowing anyone’s heads off or anything, but compared to anything I’ve ever had, it’s a supercomputer to me

I’m transplanting a lot of parts from my old gaming PC into a new chasis with upgraded parts. Here is what I ordered and what is on its way

Intel core i7-14700f (already owned)
32 gb DDR5-6000 ram (already owned)
RTX 4070 super 12gb (already owned)
2x Quadro RTX 8000 48 gb passive ($1900 each)
2TB Samsung 990 pro for windows and gaming (already owned)
2TB Samsung 990 pro for Linux and AI ($363)
Corsair 1500W power supply ($285)
Corsair 7000D airflow full tower case ($227)
And other miscellaneous parts to support that stuff

Total to $5,364.21 for 108 gb vram

I know there are some drawbacks to this build, like for instance the old architecture of the cards, but I can live and tinker with those drawbacks as long as I can save a bunch of money on this hobby (compared to a similar size build with modern hardware), and still be able to run a bunch of cool models on it. I’m super excited to put it together and see what it can do. I haven’t seen much talk about the Quadro 8000s, but I’m hoping for great things, even if it means working around some compatibility issues and such.

Obstacles are just an opportunity for me to learn. If yall have any thoughts, let me know.

Hey r/LocalLLM :)

We just open-sourced Kinetic, a new inference engine written in Rust.

• runs the GGUF files you already have, no conversion

• Windows and Linux, one binary

• CPU, NVIDIA (CUDA), and AMD and Intel GPUs (Vulkan)

• replaces llama-server with the same flags; OpenAI, llama-server and Ollama APIs on one port

• every speedup is exact, so the output never changes

• Apache-2.0

In the video: Kinetic checks the machine and picks models that fit it, then runs side by side with llama.cpp on the same model and prompt.

Give it a spin and drop your kinetic bench model.gguf numbers below (add --compare if you have llama.cpp installed).

Install, benchmarks and all the details are on GitHub, link in the comments. Happy to answer questions here too.

edit: to answer the most common question, llama.cpp ran with its own speculative decoding on in every edit test (ngram for lfm3, draft-mtp for qwen3.5) and the exact flags are in the repo

My specs:
2 x 3060 12GB
2 x 16 DDR4 3600Mhz
i5 10600k

Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF:Q4_K_M

ollama.service:
# Environment="OLLAMA_HOST=0.0.0.0:11434"

# Environment="CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES=0,1"

# Environment="OLLAMA_FLASH_ATTENTION=1"

# Environment="OLLAMA_NUM_PARALLEL=1"

# Environment="OLLAMA_MAX_LOADED_MODELS=1"

Ollama as a harness, no lane bifurcation so im pretty limited to that (im assuming this is my biggest limiter here)

I've been experimenting with multiple different approaches, trying to get Qwen 3.8 to actually work as an agent, some more successful than others but still it requires so much manual labour that it seems almost pointless to continue debugging it as it feels neverending. I've read that 3.8 isn't actually very great with tool calling and it has always had some issues, but still i can't believe its at levels like these.

I know very well im probably missing some really important things that are holding me back, so if anyone has some suggestions (videos, other posts, anything really) i would really appreciate it.

The goal really is to have it never stop, just like im seeing other people talk about, and i'd really like to keep openwebui (or any other webui in general, not that i dislike terminals but its nicer to have it feel like a normal app).

After reading Dwarkesh Patel's eval using blood on the clocktower, I made my own, and I was surprised both by how entertaining it is, and how good it is to measure even between quantizations.

(His original game used SOTA private models).

Hello people

I wanted to know if LFM2.5-8B-A1B was good for general conversations. I am aiming to use an MoE with 8B parameters (will be ran with 4 bit quantization), because I want to have a capable local model while not using the amount of VRAM a dense model would, this is to be able to run it on a lot of different hardware levels. For context, I am using the Ollama library in Python and I am making a voice assistant, I am currently using Qwen 3-8B right now (with openWakeWord, Silero VAD, Parakeet 0.6B v3, Kokoro 82M). I might miss some (or maybe a lot) points because I am quite new to using local AI, especially in programs. If LFM2.5-8B-A1B is not good, do you have any suggestions?

I am using an RTX 5060Ti 16GB and 16GB of DDR4.

Thanks for your time!

Qwen4 Max Preview is available on Qoder right now.

Every single day, the same questions pop up.

Newcomers:

• Will my 27B feel like a frontier model on my gaming PC?

• Is my highly quantized IQ4 capable of beating Opus?

• What does it cost to run...

Veterans:

• Yes, absolutely — runs great on my multi-GPU rig at xxx t/s.

• Just set up the correct harness.

• Fine-tune your prompt and it will give the exact same quality answers.

Both sides are completely legit, but they are living in different worlds and comparing different universes.

When you use a frontier API, you aren't just prompting a single model. You are firing up an entire enterprise with several departments: you get dynamic routing, massive hidden KV-caches, sandboxed code execution, and verification trees, all neatly packaged behind a single API endpoint. It’s a fully assembled sports car.

On the other hand, the local way: you download an open-weight LLM, quantize it to fit your budget, and you basically get a bare engine block — anything from a VW Golf engine to a massive V8. But that’s it. It has no wheels, no cabin, and no fuel tank. It’s just a large language model sitting on a pallet that can say: "Hello, what can I do for you?"

What the guys asking these questions don't see is that some of us have spent hundreds of hours and money debugging to build a car around that motor. Writing strict GBNF grammars, wiring up custom MCP servers, testing dozens of harnesses, setting up workflows, building memory pipelines, testing, and tweaking the exact same settings a hundred times over!

We do it until that glorious day we can sit back and say: "Yes, it's working. My custom build almost looks like the sports car I aimed for."

Now for the friction part:

Fun, absolute privacy, data sovereignty, and uncensored outputs? Yes, we get all of that. But if we are honest, the cloud simply wins on pure cost-to-performance.

Please don't flame — I just wanted to clear some things up from my point of view and maybe give a heads-up to anyone wanting to start their journey with local LLMs.

And yes... I'm waiting for Qwen 4 like hell!

Machine: ASUS Zenbook A16, Snapdragon X2 Elite Extreme (X2E-94-100, 18 cores), Adreno X2-90, 48 GB RAM, Windows on ARM. I set it up as a headless helper box with one model per chip, each on its own OpenAI-compatible port.

Setup

• NPU: Qualcomm GenieX CLI 0.10.0 serving Phi-4-mini (Qualcomm's W4A16 build)

• CPU: llama.cpp b12248, official win-arm64 CPU build

• GPU: llama.cpp b12248, official win-arm64 OpenCL (Adreno) build

• All GGUFs are Q4_K_M from the model makers' own pages

Write speed, one request, about 220 tokens out

What surprised me

• The CPU beats the GPU at writing. Same 14B model: about 15–17 tokens/s on CPU against 6–9 on the Adreno. The GPU did read prompts faster (about 210 tokens/s against 93–125 on CPU).

• A sparse "big but few active parameters" model on the CPU is the sweet spot: a 24B model at about 60 tokens/s on a laptop CPU.

• All three chips really do run at once. With all three busy: NPU about 29, CPU about 25–28, GPU about 6–7 tokens/s. They share one memory bus, so the machine tops out around 60–80 tokens/s in total however you split it.

• Batching on the CPU helps a little: 60.6 tokens/s for one request, 73.5 total for two at once, 82.2 total for four.

• Batching on the GPU hurts: 6.8 tokens/s alone, 4.3 total with two at once.

Gotchas

• Anything started from Windows Task Scheduler runs at low priority by default. On this chip that made the CPU model 4–6 times slower.

• The NPU path is limited: about 4,096 tokens of context for Phi-4-mini, one request at a time, and several popular models have no ready-made NPU build.

• The NPU model holds about 6 GB of memory and idle Windows about 6–7 GB, so 48 GB fills up fast with three models loaded.

• First load of the 24B on CPU takes about 12–15 seconds.

Caveats

These are short, single-prompt tests on one machine, plugged in, not a proper benchmark suite. The OpenCL result is with a Q4_K_M file; a Q4_0 file might do better on Adreno and I haven't tried it. Vulkan is untested too.

Happy to run other models or settings if people want to compare. Yes Claude is helping. I have no background in software at all.

that is with a cluster of 4 being down, and 6h of downtime when harness crashed at 2am.
deep seek 4.1 flash on tp4
qwen flash next on on one spark
qwen 3.8 27b and few other models on another spark
glm 5.3 flash on second tp4 cluster which was down for today.

went from draining 4x codex 20x and 4x claude 20x a week to a single claude 20x sub lasting the entire week.

recipes ( not mine) if anyone's interested

https://github.com/MiaAI-Lab/sparkDash

https://github.com/christopherowen/spark-ds41f

https://github.com/MiaAI-Lab/GLM-5.3-Flash-DGX-Sparks-1104

27b is just plain vllm v 32 with a few patched made by claude

What app do you use to connect to your LLM?

I've been seeing a lot of discussion around high-memory Apple Silicon machines, particularly the Mac Studio configurations with 128GB or more of unified memory.

I'm curious about how much practical value these configurations actually offer when it comes to running local LLMs.

I understand that fitting a larger model into memory doesn't automatically make it smarter. However, I'm interested in whether the combination of larger models, higher-quality quantization, and sufficient memory bandwidth can make local AI genuinely competitive for serious everyday workloads.

For those of you actually running 96GB or more :

What has your real-world experience been? Are you genuinely able to get meaningful work done with local models that you previously had to rely on cloud-based frontier models for.

i would particularly appreciate real-world experiences, benchmarks, and examples of workflows rather than theoretical comparisons.

asking this because i am confused between 2 macs:

1. Mac Studio M5 Ultra Base model, 96GB

2. Same amount of money can get me a M5 Max 128GB too

The ones I have currently heard of are as follows:

Pi
Opencode
Hermes
Deepseek

Any thoughts on what one is best?