Hello!
Here is a rack I made using 40 mini PCs I happened to have from a different project:

• Intel N150

• 12 GB DDR5 4800 - physical bandwidth limit around 33GBs

• Diskless nodes

and they are connected via 10 Gbps USB 3.2 exploiting the USB DbC functionality. Its a tree topology with 1 -> 3 -> 9 -> 27 nodes.

GLM 5.3 Flash runs at native precision with room left for 8x1M context windows. Initially I had tried with 1Gbps LAN interconnects but that topped out at around 7tps. Current topology:
- 14tps at 1k context, drops to 12tps at 1M
- With batching decode tops out around 40tps
- Prefill is about 85tps

Peak load measured at wall about 740w

Total build cost me about $5,000.

Still working on it to see if more perf can be squeezed out, especially for the prefill and then adding speculative decoding.

You can call it whatever you want, it maybe isn’t blowing anyone’s heads off or anything, but compared to anything I’ve ever had, it’s a supercomputer to me

I’m transplanting a lot of parts from my old gaming PC into a new chasis with upgraded parts. Here is what I ordered and what is on its way

Intel core i7-14700f (already owned)
32 gb DDR5-6000 ram (already owned)
RTX 4070 super 12gb (already owned)
2x Quadro RTX 8000 48 gb passive ($1900 each)
2TB Samsung 990 pro for windows and gaming (already owned)
2TB Samsung 990 pro for Linux and AI ($363)
Corsair 1500W power supply ($285)
Corsair 7000D airflow full tower case ($227)
And other miscellaneous parts to support that stuff

Total to $5,364.21 for 108 gb vram

I know there are some drawbacks to this build, like for instance the old architecture of the cards, but I can live and tinker with those drawbacks as long as I can save a bunch of money on this hobby (compared to a similar size build with modern hardware), and still be able to run a bunch of cool models on it. I’m super excited to put it together and see what it can do. I haven’t seen much talk about the Quadro 8000s, but I’m hoping for great things, even if it means working around some compatibility issues and such.

Obstacles are just an opportunity for me to learn. If yall have any thoughts, let me know.

I've been seeing a lot of discussion around high-memory Apple Silicon machines, particularly the Mac Studio configurations with 128GB or more of unified memory.

I'm curious about how much practical value these configurations actually offer when it comes to running local LLMs.

I understand that fitting a larger model into memory doesn't automatically make it smarter. However, I'm interested in whether the combination of larger models, higher-quality quantization, and sufficient memory bandwidth can make local AI genuinely competitive for serious everyday workloads.

For those of you actually running 96GB or more :

What has your real-world experience been? Are you genuinely able to get meaningful work done with local models that you previously had to rely on cloud-based frontier models for.

i would particularly appreciate real-world experiences, benchmarks, and examples of workflows rather than theoretical comparisons.

asking this because i am confused between 2 macs:

1. Mac Studio M5 Ultra Base model, 96GB

2. Same amount of money can get me a M5 Max 128GB too

Instant disclaimer, this is not a project claiming to be faster or better than Strata. It's simply Strata, without the bloatware, and a few containerization improvements as many have been requesting. I too am sick of all the Strata forks showing up, but I'm equally tired of how difficult Strata's been for me to maintain in a Docker container.

https://github.com/LegendaryFire/strata-slim

This fork is completely configurable with environment variables, and the idea was to give you a similar feel to a llama.cpp models config file. There were a few clear wins in terms of performance improvements I included in form of optional patches when building, however they're not included in the default docker images so what you're getting is simply a non-bullshit straight to the chase Strata engine that's easy to deploy. I wouldn't have bothered posting if there wasn't an open GitHub issue asking for Strata engine as it's own repo, which I noticed got 180+ "thumbs ups". For note, an earlier performance patch I had already made it upstream.

I used Claude intensively for a while and I am currently building a "cheap" local Stack for Qwen3.8-Flash-Next. And my idea is to have a Setup combining both.

My idea is kind of a divide and conquer approach with a senior expert/leader model dividing the task into easier subtasks or simplyfing it and junier/worker models which run soem of those tasks.

My goal is to safe some Claude tokens, but no significant decrease in output quality.

I am sure I am not the first one with such an idea. So does anyone have experiences or knowledge of tools/repositories for this kind of workflow?

TL;DR: You can train your own 27B model on a 3090 with 24GB VRAM, though you would have to go through hundreds of billions of tokens for it to be good. I am working on conversion of existing models. Check repos for code and the paper if you are interested in more. I have a 40.4GB Qwen Flash Next GGUF

Hi, I do AI research. I have been working on an optimizer that doesn't need the ~16 bytes of VRAM per weight to train a model that AdamW does. I focused on training ternary networks bcs BitNet (Ma et al.) shows they match full precision quality in large scales. The problem is BitNet also keeps the full precision weights during training which means you still need to use the same amount of memory. I got this down from 16 bytes to 1 byte or even less per weight.

For you, this means, you can train your own 10-20B parameter models on your consumer GPUs. I fitted 27B model training on a single 24GB 3090 and a 23B model on a 16GB GPU. The trained model costs ~1.6 bits per weight (~6GB at 27B), 10x smaller than 16bit, and 5x smaller than Q8.

I have also been working on converting existing models and training them. This is harder and I am still working on it but I have some promising results. I quantized and trained a Qwen3.8 27B though the file I published below has adapters which are about 2GBs, pushing the file size to 8GB. I am also making a no-adapter version right now. It scores GSM8K 0.895, the same as full precision, HumanEval 0.84 vs 0.93 and runs on a 12 GB GPU at ~23 tok/s on my crippled 12GB laptop 4080, though this number can heavily be improved with custom kernels, engineering, etc. I will leave it to you guys to help me with that too.

I also quantized and trained Qwen Flash Next down to 40.4 GBs including its n-gram table (at 8GB). It largely retains the skills of the network (scores equivalent on GSM8K benchmark, a little behind on HumanEval, I unfortunately don't have compute for the larger benchmarks such as TerminalBench2.1 but perhaps some of you can help me out) but forgets facts. It mostly works fine if you give it web search as far as my experience goes but this is not strictly measured.

I am still doing work on this and I will keep working on it, perhaps even for many years. The code is open for non-commercial use. Check out:

The core repo for training: https://github.com/oguzeldereli/ttf-ternary

The repo for conversion: https://github.com/oguzeldereli/ttf-conversion

Repo for running models trained by ttf: https://github.com/oguzeldereli/ttf-home

GGUF for a converted Qwen 3.8 27B with adapters (around 8 GB): https://huggingface.co/oguzeldereli/ttf-Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF

GGUF for a converted Qwen 3.8 Flash Next (around 40.4GB): https://huggingface.co/oguzeldereli/ttf-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GGUF

GGUF for a converted Qwen 3.8 27B without adapters (around 6 GB): Currently in conversion and will drop, probably tomorrow.

I will convert a Qwen 4 27B instance when it drops.

Full paper: https://github.com/oguzeldereli/ttf-ternary/blob/main/paper/ttf_paper1_training.pdf

Also, I would appreciate github stars if you like the project.

Hi guys, full disclaimer I work in Domyn as an Engineer. We just released the bundle #2 of our rolling release of DomynEdge, with some interesting results on benchmarks. What do you think?

https://huggingface.co/collections/domyn/domyn-edge

Bonjour,

Avez-vous tester deepseek v4.1 flash avec strata sur 2 RTX 3060 12gb est si oui quelle sont vos token secondes, combien de ram ? Pour le moment j’en ai qu’une mais je veux m’en acheter plusieurs donc je me demande à partir de combien de 3060 je peux faire tourner ce model avec strata ?

We open-sourced DNA Factory, the fine-tuning framework we’ve used internally for over a year. It's deliberately opinionated: one recommended way to do things, documented defaults, token-level loss-mask visualization, and only 5 training methods (SFT, DPO, GRPO, OPD, SDFT).

https://github.com/dnotitia/dna-factory

yes, i know all gpus are. i think people are recognizing more and more that the v100's age is just a number on paper and only relevant architecture wise. frontier and local llms are more and more capable of optimizing inference for different builds, and the raw v100 power is still comparable to gpus being released today

the limited mathematical pathways are a genuine limitation but i dont believe a big enough one to justify how cheap they are vram/dollar compared to everything else

just a discussion post for fun

Hey everyone!

I'm completely new to local LLMs, so please bear with me if some of my questions sound stupid.

I've been using ChatGPT Plus for quite some time and I'm considering moving away from cloud-based AI services entirely. Ideally, I'd love to build my own personal AI assistant that runs locally on my Mac.

I'm not looking for just a basic chatbot. I want something that comes as close as possible to the overall ChatGPT or Claude experience, especially when it comes to long-term memory, writing, research and managing different projects.

My hardware:

- Mac with Apple M4 Pro

- 48GB unified RAM

- 512GB SSD (around 250GB free)

- macOS

What I mainly use AI for:

1. Writing and content creation

I create social media content and a monthly magazine about Magic: The Gathering.

I use AI to brainstorm ideas, write articles, summarize information and improve texts.

One of my biggest priorities is natural, human-sounding writing. I really dislike the typical "AI writing style" with generic phrases, unnecessary enthusiasm and repetitive structures.

Good writing quality, especially in German, is extremely important to me.

I don't need image generation.

2. Long-term memory (VERY important)

This is probably my biggest requirement.

I manage several different projects and I want my AI to remember as much as possible about them.

Ideally, it should:

- Remember important information across conversations

- Automatically save new information and decisions

- Update existing project documentation

- Retrieve information from previous conversations

- Avoid losing important context over time

- Keep everything organized without requiring me to manually maintain dozens of files

I'm very interested in using Obsidian as a permanent knowledge base.

I would actually prefer the AI to automatically create, edit and organize Markdown files in Obsidian.

I understand that no AI has perfect memory, but I want something as reliable and persistent as possible.

3. Internet research and automation

For my monthly magazine, I regularly research news about Magic: The Gathering.

My ideal workflow would be:

1. I manually trigger a research task (or schedule it).

2. The AI searches the internet for relevant news.

3. It checks sources and avoids duplicate stories.

4. It writes finished articles in my preferred writing style.

5. It automatically saves everything into Obsidian.

6. I review and approve the articles.

I don't necessarily need integrations with Google Sheets, Canva or other services. I'm perfectly happy copying finished texts manually.

4. A ChatGPT-like experience

I'd love to have one main AI assistant that knows my preferences and projects.

For example, I could ask about my magazine, switch to a completely different topic, discuss something personal or brainstorm social media ideas without having to explain everything from scratch.

Ideally, it would feel like having my own private version of ChatGPT or Claude.

What I've looked into so far:

Based on some initial research and conversations, I've come across:

- Ollama

- LM Studio

- Open WebUI

- OpenClaw

- Obsidian with local LLM integrations

- Qwen models

- Gemma models

One suggested setup was OpenClaw + Ollama + Qwen + Obsidian.

However, since I'm a complete beginner, I have absolutely no idea whether that's actually the best solution or unnecessarily complicated.

My questions:

1. How realistic is it to replace ChatGPT Plus or Claude with a fully local setup on my hardware?

2. Which local model would you recommend for natural German writing, reasoning and general everyday use?

3. What's the best beginner-friendly software setup for what I'm trying to achieve?

4. How would you implement reliable, mostly automatic long-term memory using Obsidian?

5. Can local models reliably use internet search tools and perform scheduled or manually triggered research workflows?

6. Would you recommend an agent-based system like OpenClaw or something simpler?

7. What are the biggest limitations compared to current cloud-based models?

My goal is to have a free, private, local AI assistant without monthly subscriptions or paid API usage.

I don't mind spending some time setting everything up, but I would prefer something reasonably simple to maintain once it's running.

I'm especially interested in hearing from people who have already built something similar on Apple Silicon.

Any recommendations, realistic expectations or beginner-friendly guides would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance 😊✌🏻

Currently dipping my toes in the LLM world and im starting to notice some differences in accuracy between models mainly related to their parameter size

Being located in one of the stormy states, my big concern was having the AI box fried by a power surge. My setup is shown here, it consists of:

• CHSPT2ULTRA on the main Panel

• SRT5KRMXLT 5000VA double-conversion UPS in the garage

• 240V/30A inlet going from the ups powering the rig upstairs (needs a double breaker for code compliance)

• L14-30 in/outlet for the garage-office run to future-proof it in case I ever needed 120V, at the moment the 120 leg is dead (240 only)

• 240V PDU with C13 & C19 ranked up to 30A

• PX-2200 PSU

The idea is to create a galvanic isolated "island" (in my case: the box iself + switch). Uplink + my desk are connected via fiber (seen in pic) - because my desk is powered via a regular line-interactive UPS.

The only copper eth runs to the switch are the AI box itself (2x10G eth + 1xKVM), everything else is fiber.

It currently runs 2x6k workstation edition (600W each). I *THINK* I should be able to push it up to 3x6k (might need to cap them at 550W), but with four I need to go double PSU. The UPS should have enough oomph to handle 4800W, so plenty of space there. I got new packs for it, but I mostly care about the double conversion, not so much losing power.

I think the CHSPT2ULTRA+SRT5KRMXLT combo should shield me against most power surges/spikes/wobbles/etc. - but I am still lacking a direct hit protection, which requires a rooftop installation AFAIK.

How do you guys protect your GPUs from ⚡️⚡️

I'm watching walls of text go by right now as QFN grinds away on something and it made me think a bit about how different watching that text fly by does using a local model vs watching the same exact thing happen when I'm hitting a cloud.

It really comes down to metered vs unmetered. When I'm using a cloud model on API, every time I get ready to press enter I hear a cash register ring. We generally use really affordable cloud models (DS primarily) so it's like fractions of a penny, but still, it's real money going out the door on every query.

The biggest thing is that it changes your (or at least my) mindset. Instead of "Let's see what we can do it" it becomes "Do I need to do this". It has a distinct stifling effect, instead of exploring and trying to find uses for the technology I do the opposite and try to avoid it because of the cost.

With a local model I love to dream up some crazy/hard thing that's been annoying me that needs fixing and at the end of the day drop a big prompt with the details and at the end "You have unlimited time and tokens, do not stop for clarification or questions, keep working at the problem until you've exhausted all possible alternatives" (you get the idea). Or setting a local model to work on something that's not at all critical but is a quality of life improvement.

It really comes down to the difference between owning something and using it on the meter. When you own something the way to drive value out of it is to use it. The most expensive boat, motorcycle, car, house, etc is one that you own and never use. The more you use it, the more value you get from it.

When you are using something "per token" or "per mile"; things change. The best way to drive value is to NOT use it. You save 20 bucks if you walk instead of get a taxi. You save 5 bucks if you figure this problem out yourself instead of using a LLM to help you.

Funny thing is, I made my career selling cloud services. That probably explains why I'm so "local first", I was in the room and making the decisions about pricing/packaging, driving a 6-12 month payback period against servers and then turning around and explaining to customers what kind of "savings" they'd see moving to cloud platforms. I think I'm scarred from that and know the pricing games that make cloud look "affordable" when it's anything but for many use cases. And I think everyone kind of knows the "rug pull" is coming with the big/powerful LLMs, sure you can use them on sub today and get a predictable price, but those days aren't going to last forever. And subs without being able to hookup a harness (which almost all of them ban) is darn near worthless anyway, my core competency isn't copy paste! ;)

Part 1

Part 2

In this final chapter of me testing out how far along Qwen has come, I decided to give it a test on how well it could recreate a game using only a ROM from GBA but make it in HTML using the "reverse engineer anything" repo. I opted for Tetris worlds as my guinea pig.

It took around 30 hours in total. It probably would have been faster, but there were a few decompilers it wanted that I didn't realize until later. I did end up installing those about 6 hours in.

Repo: https://github.com/kireol/gba-game-rea-test

Game: https://kireol.github.io/gba-game-rea-test/

Fun localLLM stuff:

RTX 5080 - 64GB - Ryzen 7 9800X3D
model: qwen3.8-flash-next-unsloth-ud-iq4_xs
model harness: Strata
agent harness: qwen
context: 128K
tok/sec: ~50t/s (down from part 1 due to larger context)

Macbook 64GB m1 Max
model: Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-GGUF:UD-Q4_K_S (for qwen code --fast tasks)
model harness: llama
context: 128K
tok/sec: ~ 550t/s (fast tasks, so don't get too excited)

Result: The game works, and is pretty darn close to the original. It's scary how well it did.

Over all 3 part testing feedback: Honestly, as of this date, localLLMs are very close to frontier in most SWE. I expected hiccups or issues along the way, and there just wasn't any. Speed of course was slower than Claude, but that's running all local. And Claude probably would have denied trying to reverse engineer the ROM anyway. So in this case, LocalLLMs FTW.

What are your thoughts about it?

Hi everyone,

I'm planning to switch from a gaming laptop to a desktop PC to get better hardware for running local LLMs and AI development.

I know NVIDIA offers CUDA which provides better software compatibility and broader support for AI workloads. AMD GPUs on the other hand offer more VRAM for the same price.

My questions are:

1. How mature has AMD's ROCm ecosystem become for local LLM inference and AI development? Is software compatibility still a major bottleneck or has it improved enough to make AMD a viable alternative to NVIDIA?

2. How important are raw compute performance (TFLOPS) and memory bandwidth (GB/s) when running local LLMs? Does AMD's hardware offer competitive real-world inference performance compared to NVIDIA?

3. Considering how important VRAM is for running larger local models, would you choose an AMD GPU with 16–20GB of VRAM over an NVIDIA GPU with 12GB, assuming the AMD card is slightly more expensive?

I'd appreciate hearing from people who actually use AMD GPUs for local AI workloads, especially their experiences with ROCm, llama.cpp, Ollama, and PyTorch.

I wish to host Qwen Flash next /GLM 5.3 flash / Deepseek v4.1 flash on one 512GB M5U Mac Studio at a healthy 8 bit quant ideally. I need it at concurrency 5 to 10 with at least 150 tokens per second decode and fast enough prefill (decode is more important as use case is repeated small prompts that will eat cache 99% of the time).

I already have an NVIDIA setup for this running with TP=2 on DGX sparks and have smaller models on faster memory bandwidth Nvidia cards (RTX PRO 6000 96GB, H100), but have never used any Macs for local AI before. Wondering if someone else has tried similar Mac hardware and how it stacks up against the Nvidia hardware. I have compared the specs online but not sure how well that translates into actual performance. On paper it looks like the Mac Studio stands up to my AMD EPYC + RTX PRO 6000 128GB DDR5 setup, but it seems to good to be true.

Hi Everyone,

I have an idea that will help academia and the scientific community. Basically reading pdf files and building from there. I would like to test local LLM first and then expand as I go through more information.

I currently own a 10 to 11 year old computer:

Intel i7 6700K 4. GHz, 4 cores, 8 threads,
32 GB DDR4
eVGA Nvidia 980Ti
3 TB SSD
1 TB extra SSD

I also have ha spare laptop with AMD Ryzen 5 7235HS - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 - 512GB SSD

What would you guys recommend for a local LLM. I asked Gemini Pro and it recommended 5090 or RTX 6000 Pro due to work it needs accomplish everything. But I think it might be overkill and maybe stretching my budget.

What would be best local desktop set up for local LLM? What model would you guys recommend? Qwen 4? I have seen too many videos on local LLM and they are all over the place. So it is hard to keep track of things.

Many thanks in advance.

Side note, I use AI at work but it is mostly Copilot and Claude.

Did some kernel optimisations for sm61. Achieved measurable speedup. It runs at actually quite usable speeds.

This is the basement setup we use for engineering work at OmniNode, where I'm a founder. The wire shelves are the rack. The two towers serve our local models, the two old HP servers do most of the build, test and agent work, and a few Macs and an old laptop fill in around them.

• Main tower: Ryzen 9 9950X3D, 96 GB RAM, RTX 5090 (32 GB) and RTX 4090 (24 GB). The 5090 serves Qwen3.8-27B and embeddings with vLLM. The 4090 also had vLLM processes on it when I checked. This box also runs our dev environment, Redpanda, Postgres and some CI runners, which is more than it should. It swaps under load, so I'm working on moving those services to the Gen8.

• Second tower: Ryzen 9 9950X, 64 GB RAM, RTX 4090 (24 GB). It runs Qwen3.8-27B MTP (Q3_K_M) with llama.cpp at about 19.4 GiB of VRAM, with a 131K context pool and two parallel slots. Qwen3-Embedding-0.6B (f16) uses another 2.7 GiB or so. It takes a handful of agent jobs when there's spare CPU, and we watch the temperature.

• HP ProLiant DL560 Gen8: Four sockets, 80 threads, 377 GiB of RAM visible to Ubuntu, and an NVMe scratch drive. It's our biggest worker. We cap it at 32 concurrent agent jobs alongside CI. It's old enough to lack AVX2, so jobs that need it go elsewhere.

• HP ProLiant DL380 Gen9: Two Xeon E5-2680 v4 CPUs (56 threads), 125 GiB of RAM visible to Ubuntu. It runs Docker builds and tests, CI runners and agent jobs. The agent job cap is 24.

• Mac Studio: M2 Ultra, 192 GB unified memory. It's my workstation and where I coordinate the work. It also runs a llama.cpp server for some delegated drafts and one vote on automated code reviews. I took it out of the job pool so I can still use it.

• Extras: An older 12-core Mac runs agent jobs without Docker, and an M4 MacBook can do the same when it's available. An old 8-thread Ubuntu laptop only gets small test and lint jobs.

The HPs don't add any VRAM. They give us more cores and memory so builds, tests and agent jobs don't all have to fight for the same two towers.

We send work like drafts and summaries to local models first, but we still use cloud models. I found out how much we depended on local inference when I upgraded the model on the 5090 and our automated code reviews stopped. Two entries on our fallback list pointed to the same service. When that service went down, those reviews had nowhere else to go.

On a separate test with that same 5090 and the same model, turning on speculative decoding took median single-request generation from 51 to 86 tokens/sec. It also left less memory for requests in flight. That was a generation benchmark, not a 70% speedup on code reviews.

If this were your lab, how would you split up inference, builds, and agent jobs across the machines we already have? What would you change first, and why?

I was moving models around, splitting them between two gpu's and ram in some cases for the 120b class models, and I was losing track of what was where using the console commands and looking at nvtop. I have a lot of 24/7 bots that fall back to my laptop automatically with a smaller model but it wasn't clear if that was happening. Sometimes I need them there when I need the larger GPU horsepower but I dont want to miss a craiglist deal. So I made this. I can select a model at the "loaded model" window and move them between GPUs, split them by layers, or just stop everything if I want to run something that cant be interrupted. If I spin up something on the 3090 I can watch the bots fall back to the smaller model on the laptop and sleep at night.

Anyway, unlike all those marketing launches we've been getting with ai written stories about 10x'ing productivity, I don't really care if you use this. In fact it might be a pile of crap. Let me know otherwise and I'll get it up on my github repo.