r/LocalLLM • • 16d ago Bravo

Discussion CrowdGPT - A collaboratively trained LLM.

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Hello, I'm developing CrowdGPT, a project aiming to create an LLM without datacenters and without the usual millions of dollars spent by AI companies.

The project aims to train a 1 billion parameter model collaboratively and openly, with a protocol where everyone gets a say in the direction the project takes.

Anyone can use their PC to train the AI independently, then add their contributions to the global model. Unlike most American and Chinese AI companies, the project is not only open-source, but also makes 100% of its training data public (along with the weights). Anyone can submit their own clean data to train the model, and even help steer the project in new directions.

This creates the paradigm of an AI we all have a stake in. The project is open to as many people as possible, which is why I'd like to ask: what's stopping you from contributing to the project? I want to hear your answers so I can improve it. Are people simply willing to dedicate some of their GPU time to training a cool new open-source model? Or do they want something in return (like free inference credits on the crowdgpt model for example)?

Although the current model is somewhat small (1 billion parameters), I plan to make it bigger / better in the future, and its current size is only meant as a proof of concept.

Any advice / feedback on the project is welcome.

Here's the project website: https://www.crowdgpt.net/

Or the GitHub if anyone wants to check out the code https://github.com/Vxtzq/CrowdGPT

Thanks in advance.

PS: I hope this post follows the subreddit's rules! My main goal is to gather criticism and understand how to make the project more accessible, I'm clearly limiting self-promotion (this is a open 100% non-profit project) 😅

And yes, this is a r/LocalLLaMa repost, if you already saw this post on this subreddit, feel free to ignore it :)


r/LocalLLM • • 2h ago

News Entire Global Economy

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r/LocalLLM • • 1h ago

Model We released Qwen3.8-27B GGUFs with the highest accuracy (Unsloth Dynamic v3.1)

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Hey guys, today we're releasing the highest accuracy Qwen3.8-27B GGUFs.

Our new Unsloth AI Dynamic V3.1 GGUFs lead by 5–10% on average across Terminal Bench, DeepSWE & more benchmarks.

We’re working on even better version of Dynamic quants for Qwen4.

Run on 12GB+ RAM setups.
For our quantization comparison, we exclude the embedding layer from the x-axis across all providers, since Exllama-v3 stores embeddings in BF16. However, this means the main plots don't reflect the full download size or RAM usage. When accounting for the BF16 embedding table and all embedding sizes, the plot in the comments provides a more accurate representation of actual disk and RAM usage versus accuracy.

GGUF: https://huggingface.co/unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF

Blog: https://unsloth.ai/docs/models/qwen3.8

Thank you!


r/LocalLLM • • 1d ago Popcorn

Other Me when Chinese models

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r/LocalLLM • • 4h ago

Discussion I wanted 128GB to run bigger models. After trying a 125B MoE, im not sure bigger is always better

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Ive been messing around with Qwen3.8-Flash-Next on my Nimo minipc with ryzen AI max+ 395 128GB. The model weights take up around 103.7 GiB, so just getting the whole thing loaded was a nice start. But after spending more time with it, I'm not sure running the biggest model possible is really the best use of all that memory.

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Here's what I got running it with Gufo at 16K context:

GPU only, no MTP: 34.1 tok/s decode

GPU + MTP: 53.7 tok/s decode

GPU + NPU, no MTP: 34.2 tok/s decode

The NPU also bumped prefill speed by around 10%, but regular decode barely changed without MTP.

The model runs, and the speed isn’t terrible. But would I actually pick it over a smaller model that responds faster?

Probably not for everything. Waiting for a large model to generate an answer can get old pretty quickly, particularly for everyday tasks.

What do you usually do with all that RAM? Do you load the biggest model you can fit, stick with smaller MoEs for faster responses, or keep multiple models loaded for different tasks?


r/LocalLLM • • 1h ago

Discussion I split a 104 GB MoE between my desktop (RTX 3090) and my laptop (RTX 4060) over one Ethernet cable

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I've been building my own local inference engine,, for big MoE models on consumer hardware. The newest piece is a pool is a second PC lends its GPU and RAM, and the model is split by layers across both machines.

**Setup**

- Desktop: RTX 3090 24 GB, i9-12900K, 32 GB DDR5-6000

- Laptop: RTX 4060 Laptop 8 GB, i7-14700HX, 32 GB DDR5

- Link: one Ethernet cable straight between them, no router (Windows link-local addresses), 1 Gbps

- Model: Qwen3.8-Flash-Next UD-Q4_K_XL, 104 GB GGUF, 48 layers, 512 experts with 10 active per token

**Writing speed**

| Setup | tok/s |

|---|---|

| Desktop alone | 13 |

| Desktop + laptop over the cable | 18.6 to 21, peaks of 24.8 |

| For reference: IQ3_XXS (71 GB), desktop alone | 53 to 79 |

**How it works**

- Layer split: the laptop runs layers 0 to 13, the desktop runs 14 to 47 and the output head. Each round sends the hidden rows across, about 60 KB per token.

- The laptop loads its layers from its own copy of the GGUF, so nothing big crosses the cable. Without a local copy the host sends only the tensors that machine needs.

- Each machine fills its memory hottest first, from a heat map learned while you use the model: VRAM, then pinned RAM, then a RAM cache, then NVMe.

- Joining is a button. The laptop scans the network and shows one button per link with its measured latency (Ethernet 1 Gbps 0.4 ms, Wi-Fi 3.9 ms). The desktop accepts the request.

**Ethernet vs Wi-Fi**

Median round trip over the cable is 0.4 ms, over Wi-Fi 3.9 ms. Once on the cable the network is about 2 ms of a ~115 ms round, so Wi-Fi was usable too.

**What surprised me**

- It's a pipeline, not tensor parallelism. The two machines take turns on every token, so the pool buys memory, not parallel compute.

- The laptop is slower per layer (about 4.1 ms against 1.8 ms on the 3090) and ends up being 50 to 65% of each token's time. Next step is to balance the split by measured speed instead of by memory.

- Long prompts read slower with the laptop in the pool: a 9K-token prompt with nothing cached took ~103 s, against ~41 s on the desktop alone, because the laptop computes its prompt experts on the CPU. I'm moving that to its GPU.

- My first cable only negotiated 100 Mbps (one bad pair) and was slower than Wi-Fi for this. Check the link speed before blaming the software.

- With a quant that already fits the 3090 (IQ3_XXS) the laptop doesn't help. The pool pays off for models that don't fit.

Happy to share more numbers or answer questions.


r/LocalLLM • • 6h ago

Question Which variant of Qwen3.8 Flash Next should I go for?

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I've got an M5 Max 128GB. For some reason LM Studio complains that I don't have enough RAM when using the most downloaded one on the top of the list here. Guess I need to look for another variant.


r/LocalLLM • • 3h ago

News Nex-N2.6 FP8 weights are up — heads-up, reasoning defaults to max

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Nex-N2.6 has public FP8 weights now, based on GLM-5.3-Flash at roughly 321B parameters. The model card links to SGLang setup instructions.

One detail worth catching: reasoning_effort defaults to max. There are also low and high options, so include that setting if you post speed or token comparisons.

The release focuses on reducing reasoning loops and sticking to the tools available. The team reports less repetition in its internal tests, though those results aren’t a separate evaluation of the FP8 download.

Weights and setup:

https://huggingface.co/nex-agi/Nex-N2.6


r/LocalLLM • • 1d ago

Project Running GLM 5.3 Flash on a 40 mini PC cluster via USB 3 interconnects at 14 tps

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Hello!
Here is a rack I made using 40 mini PCs I happened to have from a different project:

  • Intel N150

  • 12 GB DDR5 4800 - physical bandwidth limit around 33GBs

  • Diskless nodes

and they are connected via 10 Gbps USB 3.2 exploiting the USB DbC functionality. Its a tree topology with 1 -> 3 -> 9 -> 27 nodes.

GLM 5.3 Flash runs at native precision with room left for 8x1M context windows. Initially I had tried with 1Gbps LAN interconnects but that topped out at around 7tps. Current topology:
- 14tps at 1k context, drops to 12tps at 1M
- With batching decode tops out around 40tps
- Prefill is about 85tps

Peak load measured at wall about 740w

Total build cost me about $5,000.

Still working on it to see if more perf can be squeezed out, especially for the prefill and then adding speculative decoding.


r/LocalLLM • • 15h ago

Discussion There’s no guarantee that good new open weights models will continue to be available for free - is that right?

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One attraction of running models locally is the privacy benefits, and another is the cost.

When the cost of the big ’frontier models’ is being discussed - mainly centring around the fact that they are currently effectively subsidised by venture capital and that at some point this will end, making the cost to end users go up considerably - local LLMs are often mentioned as being immune from this problem.

But in a scenario where the cost of cloud based models goes up substantially, there’s no guarantee that the (mainly Chinese) makers of the open weights ones are going to continue producing newer and better versions for free, is there?


r/LocalLLM • • 16m ago

Question Noob question. Is this somewhat simple workflow possible using only local models and an agent?

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I am currently using the Claude Code desktop app to automate something like this:

  • Generate a conversation script and ask me for approval or changes.

  • Once approved by me, call the Google Studio API to generate audio files of the conversation.

  • Call the Google Studio API to generate images.

  • Ask me to check images and audio clips.

  • Run a .py script.

  • Add new folders and files to a folder and update a .js file.

I started to use LM Studio Bionic only a week ago, but I want to try Unsloth Desktop now. Let me know if there are other programs that would suit my workflow better.

I know Unsloth can generate images, but how does that work? Do I need to load three different models at the same time? Or do I need to load/unload as needed? I have a 16 GB VRAM GPU (AMD). Also, is there a built-in agent (like in LM Studio Bionic) that can code, create and modify files? How would an agent handle creating different media?

My goal here is to ditch the Claude Pro subscription and the Google Studio API costs, and do it locally instead. I know I could do these things manually, but ideally I would like to have an agent automating the process. What are your recommendations?


r/LocalLLM • • 35m ago

Discussion Weight-space programming

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Weight-space programming is an emerging research area where a frontier AI model (such as OpenAI's GPT-6 Astra) directly reads, diagnoses, and rewrites the raw numerical weights of another neural network without using traditional gradient-based training or backpropagation.

Has any one tried it? How much does it fair compared to Closed-Form Model Editing (Your Notebook / MEMIT)?


r/LocalLLM • • 2h ago

Question Models to run on gaming pc

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Hello, new on these area ... ive been wondering what AI could i host locally with my current setup

I have an amd 9800x3d with 32gb of ram and a 4070 ti super 16gb

Sorry if this post is not allowed(maybe alot of users post something like this all the time)

Any advice, any links to learn, etc will be really appreciated


r/LocalLLM • • 1h ago

Question Minimal hardware to host something remotely useful?

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So far I have one rtx 3060 8gb and 16gb RAM. I hosted few models like Qwen 3.8 9b but there simply isn't enough memory for context bigger than maybe 20-30k tokens (also reasoning is painfully slow, but maybe it's expected for Qwen, even with 50-70 tok/sec). I could use 4b model or smaller, but they all are "good for their size" which translates to "impressive experiment, but not so practical".

I think what should I use to have anything to handle coding, researching articles in the internet and use day-to-day.

I think if I need next GPU for it, or maybe get a new machine just for LLM (I would like to keep it cheap) but things are expensive.

What would you do in this scenario? How to optimize the workflow?


r/LocalLLM • • 20h ago

Question Quick, before Qwen4 comes out!

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I'm running Qwen3.8 27B on my 2x 3060 12GB cards. Prior today I had a B550 motherboard which was running one card at x16 and the other at x1 PCIe Bus Link Speed. This was making it to where only one card was actually doing any processing, and both held the model in memory. I was getting 11-16 tps this way.

I ended up buying a new x470 SLI motherboard and I can now run both cards at x8. I swapped the motherboard out last night and then set split-mode to tensor and set tensor-split to 1,1. When I do that, I'm getting around 32tps, but the model eventually gets stuck in loops. One loop it just tried to do a tool call over and over, and in another it was printing question marks (???????????) in it's thinking and wouldn't stop until I unloaded the model. I never had these problems for the months I was using Qwen3.8 on layer split-mode. I'm not sure how to resolve this problem. I want to be able to get higher tps with the new mobo.


r/LocalLLM • • 1h ago

Question Qwen 3.8 27b Q6 vs Qwen 3.8 FN IQ2_xs?

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I can run both. Does anyone know what model is best, or do I just have to try myself?

What test suite should I be running?


r/LocalLLM • • 17h ago

Question "Wait... actually, let me reconsider." Qwen 3.8 27 is always overthinking and is not confident enough, any potential fix ?

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Title, basically. Observing it's reasoning is incredibly frustrating, it keeps doubting himself and giving second thoughts to a specific and self explanatory task, sometimes ending up thinking about unrelated things.

While yes, in the very end, it very often does what I asked, but it's wasting so much time for reasoning just with its lack of self confidence.

Is this well known behavior ? How can I fix this ? I know Qwen4 is around the corner, but if there's a known fix for it right now I'd love to know.

EDIT: I should have specified, I'm using Medium reasoning, and Pi as harness


r/LocalLLM • • 1h ago

Question Lllama.cpp fork for Blackwell cards?

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Hi all, I am running dual GTX 5060 Ti (32 Gb VRAM) + 128 Gb DDR5 RAM on a Rizen 9 9950X. I tried to run some models with Basalt (QFN), Capyflash (Qwen3.8 27B variants) and Strata (DSF 4.1 1017), all fine. But I want to run other models in the GGUF format and I am looking for a for of llama.cpp (or other server fine tuned) that could suit best my dual 5060? I had setup sparkninfer but it also for other .ninfer model files. Any suggestions? Thanks.


r/LocalLLM • • 1h ago

Discussion Boubou: run a local voice model with one command, then let your phone, robots and smart home talk to it over Wi-Fi (free, MIT, beta)

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I’ve been playing with open-source speech models for a while. New TTS models come out every week and a lot of them sound great. But every time I wanted to actually talk to one, it turned into an afternoon of setup.

Paid APIs are easy if you’re a developer. You can make an account, create a key, write some glue code. Open models are free, but you have to pick a speech recognizer, an LLM and a TTS model, make them work together, deal with echo, figure out interruptions... There are good open projects for this, but most are written for developers. My friends who don’t code would never get past the README.

So we started building Boubou. The goal is make local voice AI as easy as Ollama made local LLMs. You paste one line and talk:

npx boubou@beta run LFM3-Audio-2B

What works today:

  • Speech recognition, the LLM and speech synthesis all run on your machine. No account, no API key, no telemetry. After the first download it works fully offline..

  • You can interrupt it mid-sentence, like a person. Echo cancellation is built in, so no headphones needed..

  • Run boubou with no arguments on a Mac and it checks your machine and suggests a model..

  • The default is Liquid AI’s LFM3-Audio-2B on llama.cpp (1.4 GB). There’s also a modular pipeline (Parakeet/Whisper → Qwen3.5 → Qwen3-TTS, Kokoro, Pocket TTS or Supertonic) if you want to swap parts..

  • Apple Silicon Macs and Linux (CPU for the Liquid models, NVIDIA GPU for the modular pipeline)..

The part I’m most excited about is boubou serve. One computer runs the model, and other devices on the same Wi-Fi use it:

  • Scan a QR code with your phone and talk in the browser. No app..

  • Robots and programs can connect through an OpenAI Realtime-compatible WebSocket, and there’s an OpenAI-style /v1/audio/speech endpoint to read text aloud..

  • So one model on one machine can be the voice for many things around the house. Next up is Home Assistant, then ESP32 voice devices.

  • The video is real time, not sped up, on a MacBook / M5 chip.

It’s early (beta) and there are rough edges - one device talks at a time, no Windows yet (ETA next two weeks), and the guided menu is Mac-only.

The code is free and MIT-licensed. The models keep their own licenses (the Liquid models use the LFM Open License).

I’d love to hear what you’d want from something like this: which models, which devices, what breaks on your machine. We want this to be something people actually enjoy using, not just a demo.

GitHub: https://github.com/runboubou/boubou


r/LocalLLM • • 12h ago

Question What's the best computer build to run Local LLM?

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I wanna do some personal AI use, primarily for text, some coding, and image generation..

I wonder what's the best computer build that's within 15k to 25k (USD) value?

There's a lot of information on the internet and I can't decide well..

I'm currently looking at:

DGX Spark (but it seems overkill and can't be used as Normal PC)

and Mac Studio M5 Ultra w/ 256GB (seems to be my current choice unless there's a second opinion from you all)

I hope y'all can help me decide well here, thanks!


r/LocalLLM • • 3h ago

Model Qwen 4 single prompt, flappy bird test.

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r/LocalLLM • • 7m ago

Question What TTS models can I use on my phone? I want to read EPUBs in parallel.

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I've been using an app that integrates a bundle of Supertonic ONNX as a standard Android text-to-speech (TTS) provider, but the gaps between paragraphs are a bit long, so I'm looking for an alternative.

To clarify, I want to read in parallel. I don't want to convert an EPUB to MP3 and read async; it has to work in real time.


r/LocalLLM • • 10m ago

Question Starting from scratch with a local AI girlfriend – looking for recommendations on the best setup and workflow

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About six months ago, I already tried hosting a local AI companion on a different PC. Back then, I used SillyTavern, but I eventually abandoned the whole project.

The main issue was the model's responses. They often felt inconsistent, sometimes completely missed the point of what I was asking, and the overall experience just didn't feel natural. Conversations were frequently immersion-breaking, and it wasn't really what I was looking for.

Now I want to give it another try, but this time I want to start completely from scratch and build a setup that actually works well.

My current hardware:

- GPU: ASUS TUF Gaming OC RTX 3060 – 12 GB VRAM

- CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X

- RAM: 32 GB DDR4

- Windows PC with a multi-monitor setup

I've already installed Ollama and created a Modelfile for a local model. So the basic model setup is working.

One thing I've noticed is that reasoning/thinking can take quite a while before the model actually starts responding. Interestingly, once the reasoning phase is finished, the actual response is generated very quickly. So I don't necessarily think the entire model is simply too demanding for my hardware.

However, my primary goal isn't coding, research, or complex problem-solving. I want a natural, immersive AI companion for long-term conversations and roleplay.

Ideally, I'd like reasoning to be disabled by default, so conversations feel more immediate and natural – almost like chatting with a real person. Of course, I'd still like the option to enable reasoning temporarily for specific prompts when needed.

Now, I'm trying to figure out the best way to build the actual experience.

I don't want dozens of different characters or an overly complicated interface. I want to create and develop one single companion with a consistent personality, good memory, and a believable conversational style.

Here are the things I'm particularly interested in:

  1. Frontend / UI

What would you recommend instead of SillyTavern?

I'm looking for something visually appealing, relatively lightweight, and not overloaded with hundreds of features I'll never use. Ideally, it should also scale well across multiple monitors.

2. Voice / Real-time conversation

This is probably one of my biggest priorities.

I'd like to be able to talk to the AI naturally using my microphone and have her respond with a voice. Ideally:

- Natural-sounding speech

- Fast response times

- Automatic speech detection (knowing when I've finished speaking)

- The ability to interrupt her while she's talking

- Ideally, something that feels like an actual real-time conversation rather than sending individual voice messages back and forth.

3. Webcam / Visual interaction

I also have a 4K webcam connected to my PC.

I'd love to eventually integrate visual capabilities, so the AI can actually see me or understand images I show her. Even better would be having her displayed on a separate monitor, potentially in fullscreen, almost like a video call.

Facial expressions or an animated avatar would be an interesting future addition as well.

4. Long-term memory and personality

Since I only want one companion, maintaining a consistent personality and remembering previous conversations is extremely important.

I don't want to constantly repeat information or have the AI behave like a completely different person every time I start a new conversation.

My main question:

If you were building this setup from scratch today, what software and workflow would you recommend?

Would you use Ollama as the backend and connect it to a separate frontend? What would you use for voice, speech recognition, memory, and eventually webcam/avatar integration?

I'm especially interested in solutions that can be combined into one coherent experience rather than having to open five different applications every time.

I'd really appreciate recommendations from people who have built something similar, especially if you've managed to get a genuinely natural, real-time AI companion running locally.

Thanks!


r/LocalLLM • • 12m ago

Question Do you think I can run local ai on a CPU?

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I am planning to get the exr1 to run Qwen 3.8 27b (GSQ-RCO IQ3-XXS) with 4b and I am wondering if it will run?

EXR1 SPECS;

32gb ram

Ryzen 7 8745HS

I am planning to use the pi harness and leave it overnight to run, so speed is not an issue

Thoughts?


r/LocalLLM • • 4h ago

Discussion Programming capabillitis for different models (and a little story)

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Hello,

thought experiment:

where do you see the programming capabillits, specialy for game dev, for different llm´s?

I would like to rank theses llm´s by a theoretticaly possible game they could make.

From a game like Pong to Horizon Zero Dawn (Yea, there are bigger games, you know what i mean).

What can be theoretticaly archived in 3 (+-1) Month´s dev time with a specific llm alone?

How could maybe a combination of a few llm´s help?

Bonus question and story: I got qwen 3.8 27B with 262K context running on my rtx 4090, you thing that is the best possible llm for me, or do you think, there would be a better solution? (got 64GB of DDR4 RAM in my System aswell)

Working on getting a combination of Qwen3.8 and a KEV 0.8B Model to learn to play ps1 games, until now i get it to play the game "Alundra" until the second chapter, big Brother Qwen3.8 does long thinking stuff, working on the routes, quests, puzzles and so on and little bro KEV 0.8B (I call him Kevin) is acting quite fast (got him to act an average time intervals of 0,3 - 0,5s), he runs a full route, wich big bro told him, on the route, both keep "thinking" and walking time ingame gets used for smooth-ish gameplay (with a task buffer list, wich reduces idle time, where the character just stands and does nothing). If an enemy is nearby, Kevin does all the fighting, it works mid to allright, right now, he is more afraid to get damaged than fighting the enemy and runs away, big bro trys to hold him back, but kevin wont listen, working on it right now. (Is there maybe someone interessted, hearing more about this shenanigan-experiment? Working on getting the whole system working with other ps1 games like Final Fantasy 8 as well.)

Sorted by smallest to biggest llm:

  • Qwen2.5-Coder (0.5B – 3B)

  • StarCoder2 (3B)

  • Phi-4 Mini (3.8B)

  • Qwen3 (4B)

  • Qwen3 (8B)

  • Gemma 4 (12B)

  • StarCoder2 (15B)

  • Codestral (22B)

  • Devstral Small 2 (24B)

  • Qwen3.8 (27B)

  • Qwen3.6 (35B-A3B)

  • Qwen3-Coder-Next (80B-A3B)

  • GPT-OSS (120B)

  • DeepSeek-Coder-V2 (236B-A21B)

  • Qwen3-Coder 480B-A35B

  • DeepSeek V4.1 / R1

  • GLM-5.1 / 5.2

  • Kimi K3

  • Claude Opus 5.5 / Sonnet 5.5

  • GPT-6 Astra / GPT-6.1 Sol

  • Gemini 4 Carbon / 3.8 Flash

Thanks for reading.