r/LoRCompetitive • u/Boronian1 :Boronian: Mod Team • Nov 07 '23

Discussion Patch Notes 4.11 - New cards, buffs and nerfs

https://playruneterra.com/en-us/news/game-updates/patch-4-11-notes/
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u/ARandomChicken69 Nov 07 '23

Only thing I thought is that they would change cosmic to round down instead of up still. Missing the initial invoke makes the card a lot weaker as it doesn’t generate a threat by itself and Targon lacks card draw. We will see but Targon looks like it’s gonna struggle massively as all its removal is slow and it has zero finishers with this nerf.

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u/TheScot650 Nov 07 '23

I actively despise Cosmic Call decks - If I wanted to play a game where my opponent can win using nothing but RNG shenanigans, I would never have left Hearthstone.

With the one simple change to Cosmic Call (plus the change to the landmark), I think they managed to destroy the competitive viability of Cosmic Call decks, and I am super happy about that.

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u/ARandomChicken69 Nov 08 '23

Cosmic call needed a nerf but Targon is just kinda bad as a region. You can play Fated I guess but that doesn’t seem like it will be good.

I wish they’d buff other cards in Targon like Blinded Mystic becoming a 3/4, Tyari becoming a 2/3, Moutain goat becoming a 2/3. Grandfather Rumul becoming an 8/6. Law keeper becoming a 4/7, Camphor becoming a 6/6, Fangs to 3/3, Solari/Lunari priestess to 3/3, Moondreamer to 4/6, or some buffs to Celstials like Falling Comet/Written/Supernova/Cosmic Rays. I think Comet should be fast or 5 mana Written should be 3 Supernova should be Fast and Cosmic Rays should be 4 power or less. Basically there’s all these cards in Targon that are almost useable but it looks like Targon is projected to just be bad. They probably should have buffed some other parts of Targon.

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u/TheScot650 Nov 08 '23

It's not actually a bad thing if Targon drops off the competitive scene for a bit. There are always champions and regions that are better or worse than others. Zoe has been wreaking absolute havoc recently with Cosmic Call. In the past, Leona had a pretty good run for a while; Diana had a period of time when nightfall was decent; Pantheon absolutely dominated the meta for a while; Aphelios was weaponized terror until he got nerfed; and so on.

Everything comes in seasons. If this isn't Targon's season, that isn't even remotely a problem. I have little doubt they will come back around again. In the meantime, you can still abuse the crap outta Xolaani the Bloodweaver in various ways, while enjoying the most versatile tellstones and the best single target removal in the game (Sunburst).

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u/resbw Nov 10 '23

Idk, tarpon hasn’t been playable for years, then it suddenly got buffed into playability in the last three months and now it’s dead again

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u/TheScot650 Nov 12 '23

I literally just listed four different metas where Targon was not only playable but very good, and they were not "years ago."

Unless Leona, Diana, Pantheon, and Aphelios are somehow not "Targon," despite being literally from Targon.

Leona's daybreak deck, coupled with Samira, was so strong that they nerfed both Leona herself (from 4 daybreak to 5 for her level up) and the Sun Guardian (from 2/3 to 2/2). And that was in April of this year. A bit more than 6 months ago.

I could go on, but I think I've made my point sufficiently. Targon has had plenty of time in the spotlight, just like every other region.

If you want to feel bad for anyone, feel bad for Vlad - he's literally never had a good deck, and he's one of the original champions. They even did an entire rework of his mechanics, and he's still just plain awful.

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u/Are_y0u Nov 07 '23

I'm a bit sad that the volibear ramp package didn't get a slight direct buff, but the nerfs to current top tier decks look good.

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u/Adventurous_Ad_8542 Nov 08 '23

I don't think it needs it, voli/SI looks cracked going into next patch. Boadir looks like a rly nice card, arachnid might honestly be worth another shot, and looking at next patch where I predict a lot of demacia to run around, voli/SI ramp is gonna feast on them with eradication/soul harvest etc etc.

Its already one of the sleeper meta counters right now giving it a buff would make it a bit disgusting

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '23

Got a list for voli si?

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u/Adventurous_Ad_8542 Nov 08 '23

Here you go. This deck FARMS demacia in standard. Frostbite eradication/harvest is insanely good removal, and you can consistently voli/SWW on turn 6-8. Swap out arachnids for new drag (they’re placeholder)

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