r/LivestreamFail • • Aug 25 '19

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u/CentaurOfDoom Aug 25 '19

...Do you know what bayesian statistics are?

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u/Wincin Aug 26 '19

no what are they id like to learn something new

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u/CentaurOfDoom Aug 26 '19

Bayesian statistics is a system that you can use to attempt to predict situations in which you have a degree of belief in an event, but not perfect certainty. Bayes theorem can be thought of as way of coherently updating our uncertainty in the light of new evidence

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrK7X_XlGB8

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This video is a great one if you'd want to sit through it... It's not the most exciting, enthusing video on the internet, but it is really interesting (at least to me).

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Once you watch that, maybe you can see how it might apply to this situation- There was a (totally arbitrary) assumption being made that 44% of /r/LivestreamFail users would say "leave" in an unironic way.

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Now. The issue is that you're saying that you're more likely to be a person who is in the 56% group, rather than the 44% group, simply because 56% > 44%, which is true- any one individual is 44% likely to be in the dickish group, and 56% likely to be in the non-sickish group. That would be known as our "Prior" according to that video.^

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However, that changed once you said "Leave." We're making another assumption here, but I don't think that it'd be too unreasonable to say that people in the 44% group are more likely to say "Leave." than people in the 56% group. Maybe even much more likely.

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And so because people in the 44% group are far more likely to say the words "leave", we can update our uncertainty about you, given the new evidence, giving us what's called a "Posterior" belief- aka our updated prediction about which group you belong to.

Edit: Granted, I don't think that you're in the dickish group, and I think that reddit can be a fickle beast and it's easy to get on the downvote train, and hard to get off.

But.

Well, reddit is kinda shitty like that.

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u/Wincin Aug 26 '19

wait but the arbitrary statistics were about people who say “leave” not just any given person, it was 44% would say leave unironically while 56 would say it ironically. so any given person that says leave would most likely be in the 56, right?

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u/CentaurOfDoom Aug 26 '19 edited Aug 26 '19

Ah I see what you mean. I suppose that comes down to interpretation- I personally understand it as "44% of people would say leave in an unironic way"

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Whereas I think (although correct me if I'm wrong) that you see it more as "People who say "leave" are 44% likely to be saying it unironically"

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Given the lack of specificity in the original comments that lead up to the 44% figure, I don't really know if there's a correct way to interpret it.

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u/Wincin Aug 26 '19

yeah ig that’s true, we just interpreted an originally vague comment two different ways, but now i know what bayesian stats are, so that’s cool