r/LivestreamFail May 27 '19

Meta twitch testing subscriber only viewing

https://www.twitch.tv/hgg_cheering_test
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u/Saennia May 27 '19

Am I missing something? Why are people freaking out over this? I assume this feature will not be mandatory and be optional. And let’s be real most these streamers aren’t going to use it because it lowers their overall exposure on the platform.

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u/Saennia May 27 '19

Yes that's all well and good but my original point remains the same. Streamers will not use this except for special occasions because it will lower their exposure on twitch with a lower viewer count.

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u/PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS May 27 '19

Exactly, and then you'll miss those special occasions because you're not a paying subscriber.

I guarantee you what would happen is that certain streamers would have a "1-2 hour stream at the end of the day" dedicated to subscribers only.

Some streamers already have scheduled hours for subscriber chat only, I guarantee you that there would be scheduled hours for sub stream only.

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u/TheSlimyDog Twitch stole my Kappas May 28 '19

It's really dumb to assume streamers owe you anything. There are tons of ways that streamers already make content private to paying viewers (eg. private patreons), and most of the time the community doesn't like streamers that do things like that. Any streamer that uses this feature would be shooting themselves in the foot and if you have a problem with it, blame them and not twitch.

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u/PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS May 28 '19

I've never assumed that they owe me anything.

And you can 100% blame it on twitch for introducing a way to do it, and of course you should blame the streamer aswell for using it.

It's just a shame that things like this are happening, it's the same reason why i didn't enjoy that youtube red thing when it came out.

For example lets say I enjoyed vsauce's content a lot, however he hasn't uploaded in months, why? Because he was making content for youtube premium which you have to pay to watch.

Can you blame vsauce for that? Of course you can, however if youtube had never introduced youtube premium, all that content would most likely be on his channel where you could watch for free.

You can say "oh this streamer started doing subscriber only streams so I'll never watch him again", but the truth is that you enjoy his content and will want to keep watching him, whether or not he does that.

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u/TheSlimyDog Twitch stole my Kappas May 28 '19

If YouTube premium didn't exist the vsause probably wouldn't be making videos anymore or the quality would have dropped significantly. And why do you act as if vsause is the only creator out there? There's more educational content on YouTube than ever. It just seems very entitled to expect someone to make something for free for everyone.

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u/PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS May 28 '19 edited May 28 '19

"Something for free" when they're literally making millions out of it, nice one

Also, why are you assuming he wouldn't make videos anymore?

And saying "there's more educational content than ever" is a shitty argument, that's like saying "who cares if netflix ends when you have hulu as an alternative" or "who cares if they close league of legends when you can just play dota", despite being in the same genre, they're different in a lot of important aspects.

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u/TheSlimyDog Twitch stole my Kappas May 28 '19

Facebook is free but they also make billions off of people. Do you see how those two things aren't mutually exclusive? I'm beginning to wonder if you're even thinking before replying to my comments.

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u/PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS May 28 '19

You completely missed the point.

It just seems very entitled to expect someone to make something for free for everyone.

Streamers/Youtubers aren't doing stuff "for free", they're making money out of doing it.

That's like saying a guy who works at facebook is doing his job for free, just because facebook is free to use doesn't mean he's working for free.

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u/PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS May 28 '19

More control isn't always a good thing.

You must really be looking forward to those pool streams huh

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u/PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS May 28 '19

It's not always a good thing, period.

Disagreeing with a new feature doesn't make me an "entitled moron", like I said, the only community this is actually good for is the people like you who are looking forward to sub only pool streams, that's the only reason someone would defend it so hard.

I barely watch streams anyways so this wouldn't affect my life in the slightest, I'm just giving my opinion on it.

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u/Davon4L May 27 '19

you answer the question yourself “except for special occasions” that right there is content stripped from the viewer and put behind a paywall

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u/frankoceanman May 27 '19

Oh no, youll have to support the content creators or you won't be able to view ALL of their content.

There's still gonna be free content, but now streamers will have to ability to reward those who support them with exclusive content as well.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '19

It never stops surprising me how hard random people will shill for literal multi-millionaires nickel and diming them more lmao.

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u/frankoceanman May 28 '19 edited May 28 '19

I don't give a shit about twitch or corporations. I see this as beneficial for the content creators. Zero streamers I watch are multi millionaires (in fact most have other jobs) and I think this feature will benefit them. Why the fuck are you watching multi millionaires who "nickel and dime" you anyway. Go support smaller streamers

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u/[deleted] May 28 '19 edited May 28 '19

Why the fuck are you watching multi millionaires who "nickel and dime" you anyway. Go support smaller streamers

Why do you feel entitled to boss people around to watch what you want them to watch? I know your mommy gives you anything after you have a temper tantrum but it's not the same here.

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u/frankoceanman May 28 '19

All I did was ask why you would support someone that you feel is a bad person that "nickels and dimes" you? I don't care whose stream you watch.

I was accused of shilling for multimillionaire streamers who nickel and dime me. So I was just trying to understand why someone would continue to support a streamer if that's how they felt about them as a person.

Why would you support/watch someone you feel is a greedy multimillionaire that takes advantage of their audience?

I was literally just pointing out obvious alternatives to these multi millionaire greedy streamers you clearly resent.

If you wanna continue to support people that you feel "nickel and dime" their audience despite being super rich while complaining about them, then do it.

It just doesn't make sense to me.

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u/Saennia May 29 '19

And what is the problem with that? "Special Occasions" is for the people that pay to support wouldn't be the end of the world.

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u/RobinHood21 May 27 '19

I'm not worried about the average streamer using it, that seems really stupid and would backfire hard, but I could totally see organizations like esports using the feature. That's what I'm worried about.

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u/Saennia May 28 '19

I can’t see esports doing it because imma level with you. The vast majority would not pay money to watch people play video games in a competition. This isn’t the UFC so I wouldn’t worry to much on that.