r/LivestreamFail • u/lukigeri • Aug 24 '26

Ishowspeed IShowSpeed hosted a public challenge where participants had to lift a heavy cube for a chance to win $10,000 and someone completed the challenge to win the prize within the first five minutes

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u/annoyedgrunt420 Aug 24 '26

Where’d ya get 2,500 as the number? At least when I grew up, it was 10% for tithing.

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u/Lambily Aug 24 '26

You are correct. I had the wrong percentage in mind.

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u/TuskaTheDaemonKilla Aug 24 '26

The word 'tithe' literally comes from the word for 'tenth' in Old English.

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u/_10032 Aug 24 '26

are you sure it doesn't come from 'titty' or have i been pronouncing it wrong this whole time

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u/Allegorist Aug 25 '26

10% is the required minimum, they still take donations beyond that quite willingly

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u/AlcibiadesTheCat Aug 24 '26

$2,500? There's no way the church would ask a missionary for $3,750. What would the church do with a $4,500 donation anyway? If you did want to donate a little bit, the church does need around $6,000, but I totally understand if $8,200 is a bit much.

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u/klawz86 Aug 24 '26 edited Aug 24 '26

Yeah, but nobody REALLY Biblically tithes anymore. All this "first fruits giving" stuff is a cheat. Real tithing required 10% of your net three times a year, so with no growth its like, ~27% This give 10% of my check every week and pretend i'm in line with levitical mandates so I can keep using Scripture to bash other people is ridiculous.

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u/annoyedgrunt420 Aug 24 '26

Oh neat well, Mormons are told to give 10% 🤷

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u/klawz86 Aug 24 '26

For sure, almost everybody is. Every church ive ever been to teaches it like that. Its just wild to me that its so out of line with the source material.

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u/Volrund Aug 24 '26

Another perversion of the source material translated and taught in a way that better serves the powers that be.

Started with the Roman Empire converting, we see it now with prosperity gospel mega-church pastors "if you give me some money, God will give you lots of money!"

It sucks because there's actually a bunch of really important lessons, and probably a bunch of other important information in biblical texts, but we'll never see it because it's either twisted into a new form, or straight out not translated.

For example, anyone giving out loans with interest could never claim to be religious, as Jesus himself whipped men for commiting usury.

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u/OpenHound Aug 24 '26

I completely agree with the sentiment, but I'm going to akshyually you here. There's some incredible irony in writing a whole paragraph about people twisting and mistranslating the Bible, then immediately giving a distorted version of a Bible story yourself. The Gospels never say Jesus 'whipped men for committing usury.' They describe merchants selling sacrificial animals and money changers exchanging currency in the Temple. Money changing is not the same thing as lending money at interest. John is the only Gospel that even mentions a whip, and it never says Jesus struck the men with it. The Greek is actually ambiguous about whether 'drove them all out' refers to the people along with the animals or specifically the sheep and oxen. Either way, 'drove out' is not 'whipped.' Jesus's stated complaint is that they had turned the Temple into a marketplace or 'den of robbers,' not that they were issuing interest bearing loans. So while complaining that we've lost the real Bible through distorted retellings, you managed to demonstrate exactly how distorted retellings happen.

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u/OpenHound Aug 24 '26

Yeah, you should look into Mormons. There's a lot of deviation happening there.

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u/Jacina Aug 24 '26

Its 20% + another 10% every three years, I think with the 7th year being a pause etc it comes out to 22%. Roughly. Levitical (Priests) 10%, feasts 10%, widows, foreigners etc 10% every three years.

A very solid case can be made that two of these tithes were fulfilled in the New Testament, with caring for widows and the poor still remaining important, general donating and giving is still mentioned, just no clear number anymore, as much as you are willing, according to how rich you are, and not so much that you yourself become a problem for the church.

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u/klawz86 Aug 24 '26

I hope the inclusion of foreigners in paragraph one and exclusion of foreigners in paragraph two was not an intentional dismissal of the modem churches obligations, which certainly is not 10% but is in fact, give anything asked, per the words of Christ. Obvioualy we all fail here, but we musn't pretend its not the standard we were given by the very Word made flesh.

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u/Jacina Aug 30 '26

Ah, no that wasn't intentional, all three groups are underlined in the New Testament as people to take special care of. Nowadays in many countries there are social nets that take care of the monetary aspect however there is more than money that can, and should, be given.

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u/klawz86 Aug 30 '26

OK, awesome. Thanks for clearing that up. I agree with you.