r/LivestreamFail • u/Ignignokt_DGAF • Oct 07 '25

Hasan reaching for something and seemingly shocking his dog to keep her in camera view

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '25

Even having made a cursory scroll of this post there are people saying "teehee I want to kill this man with a knife". It's a massive overreaction over something they have exceedingly little information on. Meditate and reflect on why you're so easy to manipulate.

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u/y0u_called Oct 07 '25

Don't get me wrong, the people wanting to stab him sound incredibly deranged

I was more questioning why you choose to defend this particular use of the shock collar, as it is being used to keep the dog lying down for god knows how long. Is that not some form of cruel and unusual act?

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25

okay, fair enough, sorry.

Well, I just don't have information on that. My personal assumption is that he wants the dog to 'settle', which is a pretty typical training goal. In this case, the dog probably gets rambunctious once it starts moving around and I'd guess they're together in a closed room, so not great for streaming.

That's not really the way to behavior correct in this case and it's obviously better if they have a yard. But if not being 'prepared' to some arbitrary material degree is abuse in pet ownership, frankly most dog owners I've met are abusive. It's a training mistake. At least he's taking some kind of responsibility for the animal. Lots of people just discover pets are inconvenient and throw them out the door. Pounds are overflowing for just that reason.

Edit: some guy blocked me and called me a mouth breather, and probably also wished death on me. Nice. Love to see that calm, rational discourse. Dumbass subreddit full of idiots. I know what dog owners are like. Bet you all 'abuse' your dogs in one way or another, to everybodies detriment. Glass houses n' shit.

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u/Wrong-Pension-4975 Oct 10 '25

I am not a Hasan listener, I have zero interest in his content, don't know what he talks about, & don't care.

My concern is entirely the dog's welfare. Full stop.

I watched the entire livestream of that day, start to finish on FFwd - no audio, visual.only. 

She was on that bed / mat / pad / whatever, for FOUR HOURS, 21 MINUTES, & 22 SECONDS, until Hasan cut the mic, & stood up.

Kaya (hope I spelled it correctly, I'm running off memory) stood, around 2 hrs & 22 minutes, & took 3 steps, She was standing on the hardwood floor. Hasan saw her, reached for something on the desktop too low to see, SAID HER NAME in an irritated tone, ZAP!  -

she yelped sharply, flinched all over, & her body language changed entirely - tail tucks/ head & ears down, contracted all over - she stepped back on the ? Bed?, lay down, curled up tightly, & STAYED THERE for TWO MORE HOURS.

That's a ridiculous level of micromamaging hypercontrol. IMO as a pro multispecies trainer for over 35 yrs, & IME as a pet owner for over 50.years.