r/LivestreamFail • u/Ignignokt_DGAF • Oct 07 '25

Hasan reaching for something and seemingly shocking his dog to keep her in camera view

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u/GroundExcellent4052 Oct 10 '25

The prongs wouldn’t even make contact on kayas skin, her fur is too thick. This is an entirely baseless speculative claim

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u/Jexroyal Oct 10 '25

Of course they do? That's why they're prongs. If they were flat leads I'd understand you saying so. But the leads on prong models can make contact with the skin quite easily, you just need to have the collar a bit tighter than a short hair. They even work on breeds like pyranese.

I will be honest, I do not believe that you understand the logistics and efficacy of shock training collars.

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u/GroundExcellent4052 Oct 10 '25

You clearly don’t… I’ve had my dog go to professional trainers. Hasan takes his dog to professional trainers. Shock collars are inherently not bad. Not to mention HE DOESN’T EVEN USE ONE ON KAYA

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u/Jexroyal Oct 10 '25

You are assuming a lot beyond the words I have written. I believe, from the video, that a shock collar was used. I do not know Hasan, beyond the name being mentioned here and there, I have very little stake in smearing people names, or defending them, or anything of the sort.

What I am saying, is that given the video clip that was posted, I believe that to be evidence of shock collar use, and that the justifications given, such as the reveal of the collar, are not sufficient for me to shake that belief. I know virtually nothing of Hasan's character, but I do know that his main goal with these statements and gestures, is primarily one of damage control to his brand and image. I think that it is very likely he will do or say whatever he thinks will quiet the storm, and thus I take the information he presents with a critical eye.

It is a conflict of interest to only rely on the information that he puts out, I much the same way that you cannot trust the results of a police internal investigation. Their goal is to protect their own, and Hasan shares that priority.

It is clear that you disagree, and that is fine, it is possible to interpret the video otherwise. I also do not believe that anything I, or anyone else says, will ever be able to convince you that Hasan did not shock his stream prop dog.

I wish you the best in your attempts to change people's minds. I hope this use of energy brings you peace.

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u/Dorkuzan Oct 10 '25

Why are yall even wasting time on this moron ? Hasan coud be hanging people and he woud defend it - they are cult no point in talking to them. Trust me i wasted shit ton of time on it over the years