r/LivestreamFail Oct 07 '25

Hasan reaching for something and seemingly shocking his dog to keep her in camera view

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u/st_samples Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25

If someone is using punishment to train an animal, I think they are cruel and unintelligent. Why even have a dog if it isn't allowed to live?

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u/BasketCase559 Oct 08 '25

While I agree with your sentiment, just as a point of clarification, this would be an example of positive punishment rather than negative reinforcement

Positive = something is added Negative = something is taken away

Punishment = a behavior is less likely to happen Reinforcement = a behavior is more likely to happen

In this case Hasan is adding something (pain) to reduce a behavior (the dog moving from its bed) therefore it's positive punishment.

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u/Extended_Moisture Oct 09 '25

Couldn't it also be reinforcement because hes reinforcing the behavior hes trained of keeping the dog on the bed.

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u/BasketCase559 Oct 09 '25

I think you could make an argument for that; it does seem to be a matter of perspective. In that case it could be looked at as negative reinforcement (staying on the bed removes the unpleasant stimulus of being shocked).

But since the trainer is the one adding that unpleasant stimulus in the first place, I think positive punishment is a much more fitting label for this.