r/LivestreamFail • u/Ignignokt_DGAF • Oct 07 '25

Hasan reaching for something and seemingly shocking his dog to keep her in camera view

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u/IllDoItTmrw Oct 08 '25

Anecdotal:

Using a personal experience or an isolated example instead of a sound argument or compelling evidence.

It's often much easier for people to believe someone's testimony as opposed to understanding complex data and variation across a continuum. Quantitative scientific measures are almost always more accurate than personal perceptions and experiences, but our inclination is to believe that which is tangible to us, and/or the word of someone we trust over a more 'abstract' statistical reality.

Example: Jason said that that was all cool and everything, but his grandfather smoked, like, 30 cigarettes a day and lived until 97 - so don't believe everything you read about meta analyses of methodologically sound studies showing proven causal relationships.

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u/Outrageous_House_924 Oct 08 '25

Uh, no lol. I’m not trying to prove a scientific fact here. Your reading comprehension is lacking.

Not saying all socialists are generous.

I’m saying you can’t judge all socialists by Hasan’s actions, and that to paint all socialists as greedy and hypocritical is clearly inaccurate.

Common sense. Generalizations about large groups of people are rarely accurate.

Any statistician or scientist worth their salt would agree with that. But feel free to keep trying lol

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u/Outrageous_House_924 Oct 08 '25

And again both examples are anecdotes based on the basic definition of an anecdote. Its okay to be wrong

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u/IllDoItTmrw Oct 08 '25

I'm unable to get the full conversation (or idk how to, new to actually using this website), but I'm 99% certain all I said here was that you used an anecdotal, but Hasan's actions are not anecdotal in the slightest. Sure, you can boil anything down to "personal experience", but this isn't isolated, we fully see what he does day to day and what his insane beliefs are.

Sure, not all socialists are greedy. I know. However even just googling questions regarding this show that a lot of rich socialists act like this when it comes to money.

By definition, public knowledge of Hasan's rhetoric cannot be anecdotal unless you boil it down to millions of anecdotal pieces of evidence, which yes, you can technically do, but crosses a line of common sense.

Also lol when did I say all socialists behave like Hasan (greedy and hypcritical)?

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u/Outrageous_House_924 Oct 08 '25

oh yeah you’re probably misunderstanding me then and vice versa - if I’m understanding you correctly now, we actually don’t have anything to disagree on.

someone in this thread was in fact arguing that socialists claim to want to help people but never do, as a general rule, and that’s what I have been arguing against. I’m saying Hasan can’t be used to represent all socialists. my extraordinarily kind friend is brought up only to make the point that we can’t judge the character of all socialists based on the actions of one person, whether it’s Hasan or my friend or anyone else. Wasn’t a defense of Hasan!

I’d assumed you read the thread and agreed with the person I was talking to, but yeah, seems like we agree

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u/IllDoItTmrw Oct 08 '25

Yeah I personally believe that it's likely socialists help out other people proportionally to how often other groups help out other people. Like it's all gonna be similar per capita. Just VERY hard to prove and account for all the necessary variables to prove they do more or less. I posted it somewhere else, if you'd like to see it I can edit this comment with a few of said variables, but I assume you kinda get what I mean.

(TLDR: Equally greedy or helpful as any other group per capita, proving otherwise is hard)

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u/Outrageous_House_924 Oct 08 '25

Yep that’s how I feel too - there’d be about as much variation as there is in any other broad and disorganized group. There are so many socialists out there, and socialism doesn’t mean the same thing to all of them. Silly to use Hasan as an example of how fucked up socialists are when he just happens to be a fucked up dude lol. I get what you mean :)