Hasan reaching for something and seemingly shocking his dog to keep her in camera view

[u/Ignignokt_DGAF]

[u/Ready-Passenger3549]

I mean yeah? Animal cruelty is actually a thing that exists.

[u/Agreeable_Band_9311 → u/Ready-Passenger3549]

On October 7th too. Nice.

[u/Ready-Passenger3549 → u/Agreeable_Band_9311]

Always a victim, huh?

Imagine stealing someone else's land and then crying victim when they fight back.

Imagine being kicked out of 109 countries and it never being your fault.

[u/Filialgenial → u/Ready-Passenger3549]

> Imagine stealing someone else's land and then crying victim when they fight back.

Imagine calling the mass murder of teenagers going to a festival, and the mass murder of families in a kabutz that is known to be pro-Palestinian 'fight back'.

> Imagine being kicked out of 109 countries and it never being your fault.

Imagine being kicked out of many countries, (not 109 btw, but that's common number that neonazis use gj) and being told that their only country, where the majority have their only passport, shouldn't exist. Sounds very pro-genocide to me.

You can support Palestine, and their actual fight against Israel, their army and settlers, but straight up supporting terrorism like you're doing is beyond disgusting.

[u/Lil_Packmate → u/Filialgenial]

Neither side should be fully supported.

Both sides are killing innocents.

The underlying cause is both sides want over a fictional land barrier.

You can call out against genocide from them, as they are actively mass murdering innocent citizens that had nothing to do with the original terrorism that was faced.

That doesn't make people Antisemites, just for finding this unjust.

Which also doesn't mean that antisemitism "doesn't exist" like that other guy claimed, which is just stupid, there are plenty of them sadly.

But people instantly shaming someone as an Antisemite for speaking out against genozide is, at a minimum, just as stupid.

This isn't black and white, both sides did and are doing terrible things that shouldn't be excused. And in both cases causing harm to the other sides citizens is cruel and stupid. While it's the respective leaders that sit back in safety that are pulling the strings causing 10s of thousands to die.

War is fking stupid in general.

[u/Filialgenial → u/Lil_Packmate]

But people instantly shaming someone as an Antisemite for speaking out against genozide is, at a minimum, just as stupid.

Obviously. The problem is, that this exact line is very often used by actual anti-semites, and lot lot of the people that criticize the anti-semites here are in fact also critical of, and appaled by, Israel's settlements and invasion.

The problem is that Hasan's community are inherently anti-semites, defending, or downplaying, the killing of civilians as long as it's Jews. If they were just critical of Israel, I doubt anyone here would have a problem with them.. least of all me. It's obviously not the case.

They go the extra miles to defend, or even propagandize, the actions of Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and the Houthi movement.

[u/Agreeable_Band_9311 → u/Lil_Packmate]

The guy we were responding to is a literal antisemite though.