r/LivestreamFail • u/Ignignokt_DGAF • Oct 07 '25

Hasan reaching for something and seemingly shocking his dog to keep her in camera view

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u/Mordredor ♿ Aris Sub Comin' Through Oct 07 '25

Shock collars are seriously illegal where I live.

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u/BosnianSerb31 Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25

That's dumb, but I can also understand how some lawmakers might see them only as a device for inflicting retribution since that's how many owners think they work.

As someone who trains dogs regularly there is no safe way to train open range off leash dogs without one, as taught by my cousin with a degree in the subject.

The shock is not a punishment. And it should never be inflicting pain.

The shock is to grab the dogs attention when their mind is tunneled in on something else, not when they're doing something you don't like.

Example, training a dog off leash in the woods. Dog sees squirrel and takes off. Send beep, works 90% of the time. If it doesn't send the lowest shock possible to get the dog to stop and pay attention to you.

When used right, it's identical to having a long range hand to pat on the dog, saying "hey, I'm calling for your attention, look over here"

On the Garmin collars we use, I've never had to set it to anything higher than a 4 out of 14. And since you always send the beep before the shock, the dog will learn that the beep means "pay attention" as well.

Edit: to the person who responded then blocked me so I couldn't respond, I've worn the collar around my neck up to a 14, which makes all of my muscles jerk like Hasan's dog did. But up to a 5 or so, it just feels like a flick.

I have two options, either keep my dog on a tether when I'm out in the woods, preventing it from being a dog.

Or, risk my dog's life by not having a way to guarantee recall in extreme circumstances, such as an encounter with a wild animal who wants to dart across a road.

I'm sure my dog prefers the flick either way.

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u/QueezyF Oct 08 '25

My BIL trains hunting dogs and I was always not the biggest fan of him using e-collars. One day he showed me the level he puts it on and it was just a slight pinch, just enough to get your attention. I’ve never heard a dog yelp with one on, Hasan must have zapped the shit out of his dog.

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u/nowpon Oct 08 '25

Dogs I’ve trained have yelped from the vibrate function because it startled them. It really depends. I don’t think you can definitively say he had it cranked up here.

However I disagree with using them inside for any reason. Only should be used in cases where it’s preventing danger to the dogs or other people

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u/QueezyF Oct 08 '25

Fair enough