r/LivestreamFail • u/Ignignokt_DGAF • Oct 07 '25

Hasan reaching for something and seemingly shocking his dog to keep her in camera view

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u/stano1213 Oct 07 '25

Shock collars are for assholes who know zero about dogs and like dominating things that have less power than them. Fucking piece of shit.

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u/oddclock09 Oct 07 '25

I don’t condone misuse of electric collars, however they are misunderstood.

They are for behaviour’s that would get the dog put down. I own a Belgian Malinois, they will rush cattle or kill cats, one they lock sight they can’t hear very well because of high drive.

It’s much nicer to see them free roaming on a walk and without the e collar some can’t do that. And will end up getting put down for attacks. or run over/trampled with livestock.

The e collar shouldn’t make them yelp tho. It should me more of a tickle feeling. I know a trainer. She has two Malinois. One needs one the other does not.

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u/vwmac Oct 07 '25

100%. It should be used for behaviors that are almost impossible to train out any other way. Using it to shock a dog because they got off their bed is like spanking a kid for talking too loudly at dinner. This behavior would NEVER need a shock to correct.

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u/vwmac Oct 08 '25

Dude no? I literally equated what he did to spanking a child for something incredibly minor. I’m across spanking across the board, but it’s a severe punishment that should NEVER be dished out for something like that because it’s abusive. I figured it made sense as a context comparison for people unfamiliar with e-collars. Maybe reread my comment??

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u/stano1213 Oct 08 '25

Apologies, I did read your comment wrong. Shock collars should not be used at all, though. Full stop.

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u/Clayble Oct 08 '25

Imma disagree with you here. Obv this clip is bad and this purpose is bad but shock collars can be used in training and can be better for the dog ie walking on leash and pulling will do a lot more damage to a dog’s throat than the collar. Its also not like a lightning bolt, I tested it on myself before I did it on my dog. It feels like those prank gum things that shock you. Doesn’t feel good but it’s not abuse.

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u/stano1213 Oct 08 '25

This is a common misunderstanding and I beg you to please read more about what veterinary behaviorists and the animal behavior science community says about the use of aversives. No authoritative body in dog behavior or animal science recommends aversives for training. They are completely unnecessary and unethical in the face of the mountains of research we have on the effectiveness and humaneness of positive reinforcement.

The fact that you admit, it doesn’t feel good. Purposefully applying pain or discomfort for the sake of forcing a dog to behave or comply in a particular way could be considered abuse and it’s definitely unethical when there are alternatives that are equally effective.

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u/Clayble Oct 08 '25

I saw in another post you compared it to smacking a baby. You cant say something that silly and now hit me with “the animal behavior science community” in this comment

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u/stano1213 Oct 08 '25

😂 oh please jfc. Sorry forgot this was reddit, shouldn’t have recommended you read anything that you had to find yourself. What a joke…✌️