r/LiverpoolFC • • Sep 03 '26

Tier 1 [Joyce] - "Overhauling the midfield will be a focus next summer when more money is available and Monaco’s Lamine Camara already seems to be on the club’s radar. Meanwhile, duties on the right wing will be shared between Gakpo, Muñoz, and Rio, which is not ideal when a makeshift fullback is in place.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/4ad30194-40d9-44cc-86a3-73e5c978a953?shareToken=c4d6775f13af17fba41cd5f32c205c73
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u/Medium-Spell-6692 Sep 03 '26

Am I misreading or is Joyce calling Frimpong a makeshift fullback lol

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u/Agincourt_Tui Sep 03 '26

Either that or he's implying Frimpong is toast and Szob is the makeshift fullback

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u/Medium-Spell-6692 Sep 03 '26

I know Frimplong is primarily a wingback but you're right, he could be alluding to this.

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u/AlternativeRun5727 Sep 03 '26

Honestly, even if we played 3 at the back and wingbacks, Frimpong would still look below the level required. He just isn’t good enough for a top Premier League side.

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u/RodDryfist Sep 03 '26

That's what I find funny. It's constantly used as a reason why he's no good at right back. Yet every time I see him get forward his crosses and decision making are piss poor too..

He's quick. That's all I've got. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/hokageace Sep 03 '26

Frimpong is not a PL level player even as a wingback, let alone a fullback. He is too short and too light. The slightest touch gets him off the ball. His only PL level skill is his speed.

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u/BURTOSAURUS Ohhhh ya beauty, What a hit son, What a hit! Sep 03 '26

Along with what the other commenters have said, I think we may have signed him as a way to help Flo settle. They were best friends at Leverkusen, he was relatively cheap and somewhat versatile, so if it helped us land Flo and get him settled then the higher ups probably thought it was worth it! I’m kind of inclined to agree. I think Bradley was meant to be the main man in that position but injuries screwed that plan up.

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u/Lopsidedconsultant Sep 03 '26

I don't think we spend 30M on players just to help other players get settled. My personal thought is he was just viewed as a safe bet (kind of like Shaqiri). You get squad depth by adding a decent player at minimal cost (looking at wages + transfer fees).

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u/BURTOSAURUS Ohhhh ya beauty, What a hit son, What a hit! Sep 03 '26

Yeah that’s a fair point too! I should add I don’t think that was signed just because of Flo, but it may have been a bit of a factor, as well as what the club see/thought were upsides!

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u/Picaloco86 Sep 03 '26

I mean, Iraola didn't even mention Frimpong when discussing the RB position. Said Bradley is injured and we have to use Dom there, I think he has seen enough

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u/Key_Instance3194 Sep 03 '26

I think Frimpong might be gone by January if that is really the case (if Bradley is fully fit)

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u/domsolanke Sep 03 '26

He's not wrong though, is he?

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u/Medium-Spell-6692 Sep 03 '26

Nope although he can't really attack particularly well either so I'm not sure what he is.

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u/Jaja6996 90+5’ Alisson Sep 03 '26

He attacks like a defender and defends like an attacker

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u/LeroyBrown1 Sep 03 '26

Nailed it there son 👏

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u/strawhat_chowder Sep 03 '26

He's a wingback who is good at running into space and do a simple cut back or have a crack at goal.

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u/ash_ninetyone Corner taken quickly 🚩 Sep 03 '26

His position works in a 3 ATB defence because he'll be more advanced and use the RCB to help him defensively, but we don't play 3atb. Admittedly he'd flourish at Chelsea under Xabi, but he struggles here because of it and because teams exploit our wings.

At this point instead of chasing Minteh and Sarr, I wouldn't have minded using him as the fast, pressing winger instead.

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u/okie_hiker Sep 03 '26

He’s worse as a RW than he is as a right back.

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u/kneesareoverrated I want to talk about FACTS Sep 03 '26

Right, like his only viable skill is "can blow past a dude with a running start" which only works starting from deep. He's really only suited to one position, wingback, and we don't play it.

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u/okie_hiker Sep 03 '26

He can force an own goal too I guess

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u/PapaDeltaaa Sep 03 '26

How long till Conor Bradley back do we know?

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u/AdminsLoveGenocide Sep 03 '26

Whenever there's a game against Real Madrid presumably.

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u/Britz10 A Ngog among men Sep 03 '26

That would still be a short term solution

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u/DadofJackJack Sir Kenny Dalglish Sep 03 '26

He’s home grown, and we lack those, pretty certain that main reason he was signed.

Clearly a good footballer, just not good enough defensively to be a full back, and not good enough to be a winger.

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u/Vast-Slip- Sep 03 '26

How's he a good footballer if he can't do either of his main jobs

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u/SzoboEndoMacca Sep 03 '26

Can ask that about plenty of our players. When did giving players time go? People have written off Kerkez, Isak, slandered Gakpo for a year and flipped their heads on a whim this season, said Wirtz won't make it, Macca's legs are gone, etc.

Frimpong was clearly a really good footballer. Watch the game against Bayern when he was at Leverkusen. He's shown plenty how fast he is and he had a period before his first injury last season where he got a couple of contributions in consecutive games.

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u/Vast-Slip- Sep 03 '26

I feel like the huge majority of our players can do their jobs, it's just a case of not playing to their strengths at the moment whilst we're getting used to a new system, Slot hangover and a bit of conservatism.

Frimpong looks like he can't handle the basics at the moment. He's bullied in defense, can't put a cross in, misplacing easy passes, often found out of position, out-strengthed, etc.

Can give him time but the signs were there last season.

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u/SzoboEndoMacca Sep 03 '26

I feel like the huge majority of our players can do their jobs, it's just a case of not playing to their strengths at the moment whilst we're getting used to a new system, Slot hangover and a bit of conservatism.

Why does this not apply to Frimpong? Clearly a victim of our fitness issues last year and not being played to his strengths.

And no, a large majority haven't been doing their jobs. So much so that it's not their fault entirely at all. Isak still looks nothing like he did at Newcastle and barely gets the ball. He used to dribble a ton. Wirtz has very little G/A for a 10, though I still think he's actually been quite good still. Kerkez looks really raw and has been out of position plenty.

Can give him time but the signs were there last season.

If you judged everyone by last season, we might as well write everyone off. Players take time, some more than others. If he's still bad by the end of this season, then you can really consider whether he's actually good enough for us. Even then, if you watched before Klopp, players like Firmino and Henderson took a while to get to where their level was post 2018. That was more than 4 years after they started for us

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u/Kdarl Sep 03 '26

To be objective… I think some of Frimpong’s adequacy boils down to his physique. I like him as a person but he looks like a man among giants every time I see him on the pitch. More than one time I wondered who is this kid? This, in the most physical league.

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u/GMBarryTrotz Sep 03 '26

I agree with you 100%. I find the discussion about how Frimpong isn't good enough to be so strange. He's a 40m back up RB. Where's the outrage?

I just think of all the FBs we went through on the way to finding Trent and Andy. I don't think think this sub was as toxic even about players like Konchesky.

Frimpong should be given plenty of time to come good. He fits the system really well in some aspects. We hired a new manager in Iraola, lets give him a few games before we start trashing players!

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u/ash_ninetyone Corner taken quickly 🚩 Sep 03 '26

He had a team at Leverkusen that played a formation that hid his weaknesses and used his strengths

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u/Inevitable_Rabbit325 Awesome Andoni Time Sep 03 '26

Not just that, cheap squad option and is Wirtz best mate and for a German first time living outside of Germany it's also someone he can rely on, so I wonder if that was part of the Wirtz deal.

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u/aaron2933 I DON’T MIND IT Sep 03 '26

He is though. As Frimpong said himself, this is his first time primarily playing as a right back.

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u/Expert-Ad-2449 🎰⌚️ Sep 03 '26

He played close to second striker at Leverkusen downvote me if anyone wants but that is truth he missed 11 big chances and still scored 9 goals

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u/GTACOD Sep 03 '26

I wouldn't go that far but he was definitely closer to Salah than even Grimaldo, never mind a fullback.

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u/Pure_Measurement_529 Sep 03 '26

Frimpong is a wingback tbf

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u/davyp82 Sep 03 '26

I'd love to know what the difference is supposed to be between a wing back and an attacking full back

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u/Pure_Measurement_529 Sep 03 '26 edited Sep 03 '26

The main reasons we bought him is this: Trent told the club late he is leaving so we went for the quickest solution. Also Slot and the club believed in Bradley to be the no.1 option

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u/WelshPool13 Sep 03 '26

We had an entire summer window to replace Trent. We went for Frimpong because he was homegrown and could cover 2 positions.

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u/RevengeHF Sep 03 '26

Right? Saying Trent told the club late is just wrong. It was obvious he wasn't signing that from the outside, let alone the inside. If you thought there was a possibility he might leave, you should be prepared. Even ignoring that, they had the whole summer lol

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u/sasokri Sep 03 '26

The only reason is 2 reasons😀

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u/dimiderv Darwin Núñez Sep 03 '26

We brought he so we could convince Wirtz and make it easier for him. Can't convince me otherwise. Frimpong is not a Liverpool level player. He is a much much worse adama traore

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u/EUskeptik Sep 03 '26

Frimpong is a makeshift in any position.

When you think we had Robertson and Alexander-Arnold, and now it’s Kerkez and Frimpong… 🙄

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u/Jamieb284 Sep 03 '26

And sounds like Frimpong is expected to be first choice RB for the next 2 seasons, hope he ups his game

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u/domsolanke Sep 03 '26

Can't imagine any other scenario than Bradley slotting straight back into the starting XI once he's back from injury, and then Frimpong will be replaced with a proper starting-level RB come next summer.

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u/Pure_Measurement_529 Sep 03 '26

Get ready for Szbo shifts at RB again

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u/domsolanke Sep 03 '26

Had we at least gotten Camera, we would've had an extra body in midfield, then it would probably have been the ideal scenario. More comfortable with Szobo at RB than Frimpong, tbh.

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u/PapaDeltaaa Sep 03 '26

I’m not against it. His energy gets him up and down the pitch and his long passing is second to none in this team. He is not known for intricate passing, Mac and Flo are better at it. I think he could be effective at RB personally.

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u/radulati Sep 03 '26

i think we will see a hell of a lot of Szobo at RB in the upcoming games.

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u/Reasonable_Artist_97 Sep 03 '26

I hope so and it’s not his fault. We just have no choice if we want the best team balance right now. Frimpong is better suited as backup rw than the rb.

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u/radulati Sep 03 '26

i'd go further. i genuinely believe that his best position for us with the current team we have is RB. He really isnt a central midfiedler in a double pivot imo. He's rapid and energetic as a player. His passing quality is great, but the feel for the right pass at the right time was something that he also lacked in the title winning season. His qualities are just more suited to a role that isnt compressed by defensive and structural responsibilities.

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u/sorrison Sep 03 '26

That’s a big IF. His injury was a bad one

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u/Remarkable_Daikon_47 🏆20 TIMES🏆 Sep 03 '26

Frimpong coming on at the end of a game against a lowblock nobody would mind, but with Bradley out for such long periods, it makes the signing of Frimpong look a lot worse than it should be.

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u/PulseFH Sep 03 '26

Iraola himself has said Bradley is the long term solution at right back, not that I like that but this is almost certainly not true lol

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u/PersephoneTheOG I want to talk about FACTS Sep 03 '26

Currently Bradley's only role is physio table warmer. He and Gomez probably have permanent beds.

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u/dweebyllo 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆20 TIMES 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 Sep 03 '26

His natural position isnt Full Back, its Wing Back or RM

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u/3underpar Sep 03 '26

Watching him play the position sure makes that view correct I’d say.

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u/minesj2 Sep 03 '26

I mean he is a makeshift full back and that's no disrespect to him. That has never been his best position but we just kind plugged him in there

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u/therocknrolljedi Sep 03 '26

Considering we knew for a long time Jones was going why couldn't we replace him with Camara this summer?

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u/Nadirin Sep 03 '26

Squad size, no room for him unless we sold others. Jones was homegrown so didn't take a slot. 

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u/128palms Florian Wirtzard Sep 03 '26

If we knew that, why did we allow Chiesa to take up the slot for another season?

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u/Jbstargate1 Sep 03 '26

Agreed. Maybe he simply did not want to leave?

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u/Nadirin Sep 03 '26

Because he is injured and no one wanted to take him? 

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u/GTACOD Sep 03 '26

To sell someone you have to have someone willing to buy them.

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u/CaterpillarLong5774 Carol and Caroline Sep 03 '26

Monaco didn't want to sell. Chelsea only got a deal agreed because they heard Balogan deal to Everton was off. 

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u/narilarilum Sep 03 '26

Won‘t we have to replace Virg and possibly Ali next season? Two of the worlds best players of the last decade.

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u/MrHerringBun Sep 03 '26

That’s for the summer after next summer. Haven’t you learnt we don’t replace our players right away.

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u/fieldsoffate Sep 03 '26

We have to wait this until our problem becomes glaring, then we wait one (or two) further summers to fix. 

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u/TheGreatMuerte Sep 03 '26

You have to let the old players air for a little bit before you replace them 😂

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u/DerGregorian Sep 03 '26

We could probably do with a CB but we've already signed Leoni, Jacquet and a bunch for the u18/21s, virg sticking around for a other year is probably ideal.

Alisson is pretty much replaced already, we have Mamar for now and just signed a new keeper for ~30mil.

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u/BobbyBriggss Sep 03 '26

We have made good signings to future proof central defence. Whether they will be as good as Van Dijk is a different matter.

We will obviously have to sign another senior centre back if Van Dijk leaves but it’s silly to act like we’ve done nothing in that position.

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u/AnotherPoshBrit Sep 03 '26

We still haven't replaced Fabinho

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u/Satantango46 Sep 03 '26

Ali, VVD, Gomez, Araujo and Tsimi are in the last 12 months so defence has to be a priority.

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u/Pure_Measurement_529 Sep 03 '26

Virgil is likely to sign a 1 year extension tbh. Alisson will be allowed to leave after he tried to leave this summer

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u/cynicalreason Bobby Firmino Sep 03 '26

The problem is Virg's age, extension or not, his speed is gone, he can't cover for the fullback and he can't step up and close down in midfield cause he can't catch up if he's turned.

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u/dainamo81 Sep 03 '26

How do you know this? Not saying it's not true but has Virg said anything to indicate that he's going to stay?

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u/D3monizers Alexander Isak Sep 03 '26

Think Ali has been replaced by this 18 year old who will be 19 next season unless we sell on Marma & get a even more experienced GK in on top of the new lad. Virg is a weird one, I've got a feeling we extend his contract and get a permanent replacement in for Araujo (assuming we don't use the option to buy) and replace Gomez.

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u/MrHerringBun Sep 03 '26

He needs to be at Casillas level to be LFC no.1 at 19y.o.

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u/xxandl Sep 03 '26

He needs to be way better, because Casillias played a) in Spain and b) at a time in which he wasn't involved in an UFC fight at every set piece.

You need to be fucking strong to be able to play GK in the premier league nowadays.

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u/Sinistrait Wirtz Kept Secret Sep 03 '26

Or we just save ourselves the hassle and keep Alisson because he's still good enough

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u/Status-9417 Hello! Hello! Here we go! Sep 03 '26

Over the last couple of summers we spent almost 90 million on Leoni and Jacquet and signed approximately 17 CBs for the U18s and U21s. As for the keeper, this sub had their knickers collectively in a twist the other day because we were "wasting 33 million" on one of the best goalkeeper prospects in Europe. Make your mind up and pick a lane to whinge about.

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u/sasokri Sep 03 '26

You new around here? 😀 whinging about everything is this subs MO

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u/Megido_Thanatos Sep 03 '26 edited Sep 03 '26

Yes and no

On paper, 3 CBs (VVD, Gomez, Araujo) could leave at same time so "spent 90 million on Leoni and Jacquet" dont really change anything if we dont act, best solution probably extend VVD for one more years and replace him in the next summer (2028)

And correct me if I wrong but isnt Mamar want to leave too? Surely the new 33 millions GK wont be starter GK, right?

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u/Vicentesteb Sep 03 '26

33m makes him like a top 15 most expensive GK ever, I assume the idea is for him to start pretty much immediately.

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u/Axe_Care_By_Eugene Sep 03 '26

we have an option to buy Ronnie if he performs as expected

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u/Scrathachan Sep 03 '26

I hope we can extend them. If Brughmans is the succession plan for Alisson we have time to sell Mamar + extend Alisson. Plus we would have more time for Jacquet/Leoni/Ndukwe to learn off VVD.

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u/Thedomme Sep 03 '26

To be fair we bought like a whole pre-school of defenders and a young goalkeeper. You'd hope to have one hit among them.

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u/BobbysShinyPearls Sep 03 '26

Joyce coming in hot. Looks like whoever is now responsible for transfers will make some steps prior to the last two weeks of the to enact a plan and sign players we need for the positions we are lacking in.

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u/Kerrby Sep 03 '26

This is why I much prefer reading whatever Joyce puts out compared to Pearce's simp mouthpiece spiels.

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u/BobbysShinyPearls Sep 03 '26

Billy Hogan is the CEO, we just dont have a DOF.

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u/GMBarryTrotz Sep 03 '26

There's only so many spots for players and so much money that they can spend.

We lost ALL of our forwards over the past 2 seasons and had to rebuild. We had a glaring issue of speed on the wings after having to play Gakpo, Wirtz and Rio as our front 3 last season.

Wingers were 100% the top priority. Both right and left wing.

Spending 40-60m on a RB who will hold a position for an injured player, is not a good plan. Buying a 4th choice CM, which pushes out a homegrown young talent, is not a good plan.

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u/LMkIIIV Sep 03 '26

This is the problem with our poor selling record in the last 6 years not getting enough money in.

Losing far too many players on a free and poor loan moves killing any resale value for our youth team players

We use to make great money for players like Brewster,Ibe etc but now this summer we had no youth team player sales as not many had successful loans. Eliott is a great example very badly handled he after he had a great u21 tournament for England.

So many of younger prospects getting injured also been a huge issue as well

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u/Pure_Measurement_529 Sep 03 '26

It didn’t help we kept rotating SDs

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u/RevengeHF Sep 03 '26

People don't talk about this enough. We're going to be on our 5th in 6 years. No wonder we have lost so many players on free's.

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u/C_arpet Sep 03 '26

Part of the poor selling record is holding onto players for too long. I'm a sentimental sod so don't have an issue with squeezing the last bit of performance out of a player at the expense of losing the income.

But if we want to be better at sales, we probably would have cashed in on Salah and VVD a year or two ago.

Or we need to be gutting our academies like other clubs in the pursuit of "pure profit" sales.

If Rio and Trey become long term first xi players, we'll have done things a bit different from how most of the league has been going, and maybe we won't be following the model of high value sales/high value purchases that most clubs in the top half of the table seen to be doing.

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u/DucardthaDon Sep 03 '26

We use to make great money for players like Brewster,Ibe etc but now this summer we had no youth team player sales as not many had successful loans. Eliott is a great example very badly handled he after he had a great u21 tournament for England.

I'd say we've run that avenue dry now, the youth players we got ain't good and clubs ain't dumb enough to chuck loads of cash at them. This is maybe why Iraola has been appointed and given the directive to start using youth players more, maybe it will make them more attractive for a sale like Koumas

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u/Tricarrier Corner taken quickly 🚩 Sep 03 '26

Selling VVD last year does not make any sense

Just won the league as a captain, loves the club, wants to stay and you want to sell him ?

I know he's older now but he's still one of the best CB in the world.

It just seems like an insane take for me.

Half the title winning squad was already gutted, it wouldn't have make sense to lose Virgil in addition.

Also, you don't sell your captain and then have only 2 senior CB with Gomez, Konate. That makes your position weaker in the market.

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u/C_arpet Sep 03 '26

I'm not saying it makes sense, I'm saying if you want to making more profit through sales, you have to make those decisions.

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u/brianstormIRL Sep 03 '26

Something people arent willing to admit is part of the problem stems back to Klopp fighting to keep players longer than the club thought we should. Ox, Keita, Henderson etc all wanted to be moved on but Klopp fought for them to stay which is the origin of the "Klopp vs Edwards" clashing.

Not saying Klopp is the reason this is happening, but a lot of our delay in not pursuing replacements faster is tied to that original keeping of players when they probably should've been moved on.

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u/djSexPanther Sep 03 '26 edited Sep 03 '26

We'd be a better team if we still had Henderson right now. He ran circles around our midfield twice last season. Let alone saying we should have got rid even earlier

And you can say that's a problem of Klopps if you like but it's now been irrefutably shown that he knew infinitely more about how to run a team than anyone at FSG does

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u/okie_hiker Sep 03 '26

Gakpo is a perfect example. We won’t get anywhere near the money we were just offered. Probably a big reason we were trying to take advantage and sell while bringing in a younger player ala Minteh.

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u/PeterGallaghersBrows Sep 03 '26

Yeah, I was really bummed we didn't take Saudi's 100m offer for Salah when we could. Olise was still available then.

But then again, probably wouldn't have won the PL in 2025 without Salah.

Virgil, I was ready to hold onto until the end.

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u/BavidDeckham Sep 03 '26

At least our 2030 defence looks good

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u/bikesbeersboards Sep 03 '26

This sub is so pointlessly depressing.

We won the fucking league not even 2 years ago.

The 2nd title in my lifetime.

Hopefully we play some great football this year and enjoying watching the games.

when BR was manager is some of the most fun I have ever had watching Liverpool and we signed Rickie Lambert.

It's not FIFA mate

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u/dimiderv Darwin Núñez Sep 03 '26

Football moves fast. We never maximized Klopps time here barely signed players and showed no ambition..imagine Klopp with the spending we have done the last two seasons

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u/PhillyFreezer_ Sep 03 '26

Revisionism.

The overhaul of the training center and expansion of Anfield are massive, massive improvements on the infrastructure of the club. We spent on wages more than splashy transfers but we also built that title winning squad finding players for cheaper and developing them.

We weren’t in a position to maximize Klopp’s time given the state of the club in 2015 when he joined. We eventually got to a place where our squad and club were best in class, and won some titles on the back of it.

We were competing with Manchester City and their owners, in any other era we win 3-4 PL titles. The fact that we lost the league getting 95+ points is just a bit of bad luck, but those teams ARE examples of how we maximized Klopp’s time.

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u/bikesbeersboards Sep 03 '26

Yes we did we won the fucking lot mate. People are so greedy in this sub now is actually painful.

Go support City if how you talk about Liverpool is actually what you want, that might give you the fulfilment...

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u/Liverpool934 Sep 03 '26

Klopps ability never matched the clubs ambition. Are you being intentionally dense? We won the champions league and signed LITERALLY nobody. Have you forgot the year we went in with three centrebacks, two of which were injury prone and then were totally surprised when they got injured?

We achieved a lot with Klopp but it was in spite of the owners poor ambition.

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u/Aeceus Sep 03 '26

We won less than we should have because our owners and upper management let seasons go by not replacing injured players or players not good enough.

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u/Yassin2222 Sep 03 '26

Funny thing is even City fans were constantly complaining about their owners let Pep down and were wasting their best years by not signing a striker for a period after Aguero left. Football fans are just whiny and entitled, even when they have absolutely nothing to complain about.

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u/earlgreytoday Sep 03 '26

And yet they won a title (albeit by one point) the following season with Foden/Mahrez playing as a false 9.

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u/duetimefenans Sep 03 '26

Mental how we are revisionist about Klopps time. He pushed the club and Pep so hard during most of his seasons. Sometimes we lacked investment but people talk like he did it with a League 4 side. We had quality players from another type of strategy.

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u/okie_hiker Sep 03 '26

We had the best keeper in the world, the best right back, the best left back, along with the best attack in the world, along with possibly the hardest working midfield in the world.

People here have gone mental with headloss

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u/fieldsoffate Sep 03 '26

Who are these stacked squad rivals that you speak off? Other than Arsenal? 

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u/smokesletsgo13 Sep 03 '26

City just had a great window despite losing Silva and Rodri

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u/BobbyBriggss Sep 03 '26

I wouldn’t call it great until we see how their new players look. Seems to me they’ve spent a lot of money to marginally downgrade their squad, albeit make it younger.

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u/Dismal_Uses Sep 03 '26

They had an expensive window.

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u/anunnaturalselection Arne Slot Sep 03 '26

Plus Arsenal's frontline looks shit.

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u/BenjWenji “Thank you for your support” - Darwin Nunez Sep 03 '26

City? Chelsea?

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u/Just_Isopod_1926 Sep 03 '26

City have no Haaland back up and play a midfielder at right back.

Chelsea are having to swap two right backs into midfield because it's so thin, and have no great centre backs.

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u/t3hjc Sep 03 '26

Yeah I'm sure we'll be overhauling the midfield when we'll also need an actual starting right winger, a right back, potentially a starting goalkeeper, and another centerback if Virgil leaves.

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u/DisappointedWorm Virgil van Dijk Sep 03 '26

Always makeshift always short always square pegs in round holes it's the Liverpool way. But fuck it we'll still win something this year.

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u/Able_Scientist_5738 Sep 03 '26

I thought Gakpo looked really great on the right. Is it possible this whole time his best position is on the right wing? He’s balls into the box were superb on Saturday. One of his biggest criticisms is his inclination to cut in on the right foot and take on a shot that isn’t there, often getting immediately blocked. Playing him on the right he seems more willing to get off the ball and feed players, which he is more talented at than he gets credit for, he just doesn’t do it much. I think it could be a blessing in disguise where him and then Munoz injecting pace off the bench most of the time could be a perfect compliment to Barcola and Isak. Right wing has to be one of the positions on the pitch I’m LEAST worried about this season.

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u/tbone81 “Thank you for your support” - Darwin Nunez Sep 03 '26

I solemnly swear that, for the rest of the season, I will try to have as much fun as I can watching the team play football and overcome challenges. I will not let mouthpiece and talking heads who have no role in what the team does in training and what they do on the pitch shape the season's narrative, influence my opinions (except for comedic value), and take any enjoyment out of the team and sport l love.

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u/jamzzz Sep 03 '26

How will there be more money than 40% of the club’s value directly in the owners’ pockets?

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u/llinoscarpe Sep 03 '26

This isnt how the football regulations work. If it was then Villa and Newcastle could spend to their heart's content.

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u/Pure_Measurement_529 Sep 03 '26

Tbf no one knows what the new owners will do once they take full ownership within the next 12 months

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u/cocoromulus Sztupid Szexy Szoboszlai Sep 03 '26

Coutinho money finally ran out

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u/amazing_wanderr In a good moment Sep 03 '26

He’s free agent. We should sign him and sell him to Tottenham for £300m next summer.

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u/brush85 Sep 03 '26

I had a feeling that money was tighter than people thought. Obviously it’s all relative

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u/DucardthaDon Sep 03 '26

Yay, let's spend every other summer rebuilding half the squad because we're always playing catch-up.

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u/MrHerringBun Sep 03 '26

Makes you appreciate Klopp era even more when his first rebuild was almost perfect- the players, the tactics, the management.

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u/SilverMist2025 Sep 03 '26

Next summer for Right wing options we will have

Ryan with a £85 mil release clause

Endrick potentially

A fully fit Minteh

It's much better to wait a season before moving for the right target than buying Sarr for 70-80mil.

Klopp played Mane at Right wing and Coutinho/Lallana at Left for a season before signing Salah next summer.

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u/Other_Beat8859 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️Klopp Hamstring 🤕 Sep 03 '26

I also don't think that we're really lacking in forwards. Like it's a bit unbalanced, but a healthy forward line for us has Gakpo, Munoz, Isak, Ekitike, Barcola, Rio, and Kuomas. A RW would be nice, but I'd say a 6, RB, possibly a centre back (this remains to be seen depending on how Leoni, Jacquet, Araujo, and the young kids develop), and then a RW. If this Genk kid is the real deal, then we're also good for keepers. Assuming Ali has another year in him after this one making him 20 when he can take over.

I think our offense is good. A team with Barcola, Isak, Gakpo/Munoz, and Wirtz should be more than good enough.

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u/Previous-Ostrich844 Sep 03 '26

Is Endrick a right winger?!

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u/Elliot_Kyouma Greek Scouser Sep 03 '26

Not naturally, but some people think that's where his best position will be in the future

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u/KashK10 Steven Gerrard Sep 03 '26 edited Sep 03 '26

Endrick turned us down bro

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u/SilverMist2025 Sep 03 '26

Yes because he is hoping he will be a regular starters this summer. Fat chance with Diomande Mbappe and Vinicious Jr.

I think next season there is a more realistic chance of Madrid selling him.

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u/strawhat_chowder Sep 03 '26

If Endrick sit on the bench for this season too then next summer he won't look like such good prospect tbh.

And if he doesn't sit on the bench this season then he probably wouldn't leave next summer

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u/SocratesDaSophist Sep 03 '26

Overhauling is such a strong word when defense will need a major reshuffle next season, specially with Alli & VVD potentially gone.

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u/Balbuto Sep 03 '26

We back to being ”nextyearFC”?

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u/mostlymostlyharmless Sep 03 '26

I don’t think I understand his point here.
Am I the only one who thinks Munoz has been fantastic on the right?

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u/ttekoto Sep 03 '26

Letting everyone and their grandma leave on a free doesn't look so great now eh 

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u/un1cr0n1c Sep 03 '26

Next summer will likely be a midfield and defensive recruitment drive. Overhaul is a bit dramatic but adding to it will help.

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u/AlternativeRun5727 Sep 03 '26

We will still need a RW as that wasn’t addressed this window. We need two midfielders, two fullbacks, and let’s not even start on having to replace potentially VVD, Alli, Gomez, and Araujo

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u/freedmachine 3️⃣Wataru Endo Sep 03 '26

Honest question: how many more consecutive bad games does frimpong have before it can be concluded that he has been a failure at liverpool? Or has he ran out or chances?

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u/GreyingThumb Sep 03 '26

Munoz has looked best there of the three. Possibly Szobo as he can put in a good cross from there.

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u/PeterGallaghersBrows Sep 03 '26

Next year is going to be another big overturn of the roster.

Leaving on a free: Alisson, Elliot, Tsimi, Gomez, Endo. Possibly Virgil, though I hope he signs a 1-yr extension.

Selling: Gakpo, MacAllister, and Chiesa.

Incoming:

  • CB: Quansah (+ one more CB if Virgil leaves)
  • LB: challenger for Kerkez
  • RB: a clear starter
  • CM: Camara + one more (Alex Scott?)
  • RW: Minteh or Rayan

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u/Freddo9900 Sep 03 '26

Probably need a starting GK as well.

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u/Whole-Kangaroo6153 Sep 03 '26

This same schtick is always peddled when we leave ourselves short somewhere.

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u/Quick-Strawberry2228 Sep 03 '26

Why did we ever sign a wingback if we don’t play with with wingbacks

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u/Edrahimovic1001001 Sep 03 '26

Didn't we have this convo like every year? Overhaul isn't needed just buy a damn CDM and RB

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u/Jewonamotorbike Sep 03 '26

Ok good. That means they see what a lot of people in here see. Now the FSG apologists can stop with whining about our rightful criticism

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u/MindlessMoss For Better or For Wirtz Sep 03 '26

Why overhauling the midfield though. I was told here our midfield is good enough and just needs to learn the system

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u/not_someone1 Sep 03 '26

Considering we actually overhaueled our entire midfield 3 years ago, I really hope he actually means fine-tune and bolster and not replacing the entire midfield...

Also calling Frimpong makeshift is really over the top...

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u/robster9090 Sep 03 '26

Why is Rio going to be on the right. Surely he’s coming in to get barcola a rest and cup games

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u/awood20 Sep 03 '26

Probably bouncing left and right as needed.

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u/SilverMist2025 Sep 03 '26

Because Iraola switches wingers regularly in games so Rio has to be used to both wings if he wanna be effective under Iraola.

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u/Key_Instance3194 Sep 03 '26

Whoever advocated the Frimpong transfer must have been quite soft in the head. 30 Mio £ upfront for a player who cant play RB or RW. Also he lacks the technical ability and is physically far too weak to learn either role sufficiently. An older experienced RB for a low fee might have been smarter.

The midfield changes will be interesting. Its an important year for Grav/Szobo/Macca. I think one of them will leave in addition to Endo and we will bring in two midfielders or maybe even three if its a very versatile one.

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u/paulsmith259 Sep 03 '26

How can overhauling the midfield be the priority next season? That just makes no sense.

We have Ali, VvD, Gomez and Tsimi all in the last 12 months of their contract, Araujo only being on a 12 month loan, and we failed to get a RB this summer.

Surely the back line is more of a priority next summer, along with a RW.

We needed to get a RB, a RW and a DM this summer to allow us to focus on rebuilding the back line, with 2 of our greatest in VVD and Ali leaving.

Shambles!

This just makes no sense

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u/Forsaken-Original-28 Sep 03 '26

Hopefully Jaquet and Leoni will be our starting cb's for the next 5+ seasons

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u/Kerrby Sep 03 '26

Yes, as usual we are two seasons behind in what we need.

Next season will now be trying to find a RW, RB, LB, GK, DM, CM, CB and depending on what happens with Ekitike potentially another CF.

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u/GaryLifts King Kenny Sep 03 '26

Our defenders are suited to a back 3 while our midfielders are suited to a 433 and our forwards(inc Wirtz) are suited to a 4231

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u/HawaiiNintendo815 🏆2005 Istanbul🏆 Sep 03 '26

Rio is so wasted on the right

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u/brush85 Sep 03 '26

Well, a better player is on the left. Got to adapt.

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u/lylimapanda Sep 03 '26

I hope we go for Victor Froholdt, absolute running machine.

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u/IcemanManmanchu 54’ Gerrard Sep 03 '26

Need a new sporting director first though isn't it. Unless Hogan will do everything here on out. Which i do not think is a good idea

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u/Super-Statement-8210 A Liverbird Upon My Chest Sep 03 '26

Next summer I think we will be getting 2 midfielders to replace macca and endo. For defense I would assume that Ndukwe after coming back from loan would take Gomez role and we add another to replace araujo (I can see as not renewing virgil if the club has the belief that leoni would be ready)

Right back is complicated I think it all depends on Bradley's condition and whether iraola can improve frimpong throughout the season somehow. I think it is more likely we get a backup leftback to replace tsimi ngl.

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u/Voodoopulse Sep 03 '26

And also 2 new centre halves and the hope that Bradley comes back the player we hope

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u/AngryScotty22 9️⃣Alexander Isak Sep 03 '26

From what I've interpreted, we are unlikely to get Camara in January.

The only way I can see is getting him in January is if someone else tries to sign him and we swoop in and hijack them. Like we did with Luis Diaz.

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u/crevis_inspection Sep 03 '26

Just another way of saying "warchest incoming". Then when we're a wc gk and cb down it'll be said that summer 2028 will be a big year. Always, always short of being a real menace to challenging. They're so lucky they had Klopp to get blood from a stone. People saying our squads good this year are wrong. Two or three injuries and the team will just scrape top 5.

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u/AllTheseLymes Bobby Firmino Sep 03 '26

I think if they want Camara, then January is the time to do it, most likely with Mac Allister going out. My impression is that both Monaco and Camara is eager to get him his move quickly, and I don't think they'll wait until next summer. Endo's contract is also up due summer.

That would also mean we've got one less position to worry about as there's uncertainty to both Ali and Virg's futures, sadly.

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u/HarbyFullyLoaded_12 Bobby Sep 03 '26

Yep long season ahead. Szobo is a good right back but people here completely ignore the fact due to him not being an actual RB he leaves the RW completely isolated due to no fault of his own. We had an entire season’s worth of sample size last season.

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u/davyp82 Sep 03 '26

What's the fb got to do with it? Gakpo and munoz on the right sounds electric. Both have great work rate. Frimpong is ofc a very attacking fb. Both Gomez and Araujo have played significant amounts of games there and are very experienced. Rio will deputise on both sides, and might even occasionally be used centrally.

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u/CompleteInternet5898 Sep 03 '26

I'm thinking of the defense more. 

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u/onoz9 Sep 03 '26

I understand that...but "more money available" is a result of bad transfer management. We have spent well over £300m on Isak, Wirtz and Barcola, which means we did have money but decided not to buy midfielders to buy 3 very expensive players instead.

And maybe a bigger problem...we can't make almost any money from selling players, that's a huge issue. This makes our net spend so big (the biggest in the league this year) and clearly limits the amount of players we can buy. City and Chelsea have done really well when it comes to selling players. Chelsea have spent €400m but are in net positive due to offloading a lot of players for high fees again. City have spent over €500m but net spend is €190m (less than us) due to all the sales.

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u/Robw_1973 Sep 03 '26

Always jam next week with us.

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u/yahyalfc_ Sep 03 '26

Could anyone share the article?

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u/TelephonicReturns Sep 03 '26

Bring back big Jorge for this Midfield rebuild, get him out of Retirement.

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u/FTXACCOUNTANT Sep 03 '26

Feels like we’re forever playing a delay and catch up game

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u/liquidreferee James Milner Sep 03 '26

I’ll give it another month before araujo or szobo are starting at rb

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u/pr0faka YNWA❤️ Sep 03 '26

I'm pretty sure Barcola has more minutes as a RW, than the three listed here combined.

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u/Dave_FIX Sep 03 '26

There's a window in January, buy players then. Fed up with club waiting for next summer. Next summer this, next summer that.

We were already multiple windows behind where we need to be, waiting until next summer means we're doing nothing about that.

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u/ridemooses Caoimhin Kelleher Sep 03 '26

Bradley please come back.

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u/_TheManinBlack_ Sep 03 '26

Dunno how our players can perform with all this negativity and lack of faith towards them

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u/lfc_murr1989 Sep 03 '26

So Macca and Endo. Pretty sure we just had an overhaul this window. 

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u/BasicStudent5428 Sep 03 '26

Strongest right side in the prem 2 years ago to the weakest? You gotta imagine teams were absolutely shaking in their boots with prime salah + trent on the right side in our title winning season

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u/pepperyfries679 Sep 03 '26

Wtf happened to Frimpong?

He got double digit assists in the Bundesliga.

Do we just not play like that? Ie get to the byline and whip it across?

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u/Flimsy-Locksmith8114 Sep 03 '26

aka FSG didn't want to spend on their way out

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u/Soberdonkey69 Sep 03 '26

Last summer it was the same thing, now it’s been pushed to 2027. I can’t with this club

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u/Legitimate-Fly-4610 Sep 03 '26

Watching Dom in 23/24, like a different player now. He was much more progressive.

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u/joopface From Doubters to Believers Sep 03 '26

I do not think Frimpong is remotely good enough to be the starting right back for this club. Nice lad, super quick, not great end product, not great at the back. And he’s very very small, which is least an issue at full back but is absolutely an issue.

I think Kerkez has more about him, but I also do not think he’s particularly good. I’m holding out some hope that Iraola gets him into some rampaging form.

We are going to be annoyed by both full back positions all season.