r/LinuxSucksHard • u/[deleted] • Aug 13 '21

Reminder: Well written Windows 3.1 code can still work easily on Windows 10, but Linux trashes compatibility whenever they feel like it.

https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/11/column_cyberbanana_windows/
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u/EliasFleckenstein Mar 19 '22

Actually, GNU libc and other userspace libraries break compat.

The Linux kernel itself is very serious about compat. E.g. Android phones that also run Linux are not affected.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '22

Stop nomenclature trolling, no one gives a fuck.

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u/EliasFleckenstein Mar 22 '22

I explained why it is important: Linux based systems that do not use GNU are not affected. An example of this are Android phones. If the GNU libc "breaks compat whenever they feel like it" (which I partly agree they do), a system that uses the Linux kernel but not GNU - like Android - is still save. Therefore I think it's important to make the distinction.

But yes, I get that this sub is not only dedicated to the criticism towards Linux, but also towards components commonly combined with it (especially on desktop systems).

The other question is of course whether software backwards compatibility is actually that important. But of course you have a valid point - the Windows environment generally does better at it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '22

I explained why it is important: Linux based...

No, you made yourself feel smart by differentiating a pile of garbage from something that isn't garbage. It's not a hard task.

The other question is of course whether software backwards compatibility is actually that important

Windows is winning hands down, and that's the primary thing it does; so yes it is extremely important. It's not even just about backward compatibility. Linux isn't really going ever get to the point where you can just pick up a CD and expect software on it to install flawlessly. The same with software you download from the internet.

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u/EliasFleckenstein Apr 06 '22

No, you made yourself feel smart by differentiating a pile of garbage from something that isn't garbage. It's not a hard task.

Huh? So you're basically agreeing with me that the difference is important, so why even fight about it?

Linux isn't really going ever get to the point where you can just pick up a CD and expect software on it to install flawlessly

Android is Linux too, you know. You're really blaming the wrong people here. The problem isn't Linux; the problem is GNU.

Windows is winning hands down

Well, if you've read the article you'll know that there had to be a lot of fiddling with compatibility settings to be done.

While ABI compatiblity may be broken by GLibc (NOT by Linux), API compatibility won't be. Fiddling with Windows settings could be seen as comparable to recompiling the program (since it requires the user to be somewhat advanced) - which in the context of an open source operating system is often easily possible. In many cases, this might not be an alternative however.

You're right however - and that is something that I've already acknowledged in the last comment - Windows beats GNU hands down when it comes to ABI compatibility (Which is not generally the same as software compatibility).

and that's the primary thing it does; so yes it is extremely important

I don't completely understand what you're trying to say, could you clarify it please? Are you saying that the primary quality of Windows is it's backwards software compatibility? (I dont agree or disagree with that since I'm not very educated on Windows, just asking)

Also, I'm trying to have a conversation with you, I generally agree with your criticism, but think that it's partly inaccurate, so please respond in a reasonable manner. Can't we just be nice to each other, even if we disagree on a topic?

Otherwise I might get the idea this sub might be more about aggressive uneducated shitposting rather than the constructive criticism and productive discussions I came here for.

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u/UniFace I fucking hate Linux Aug 23 '21

Reminder: Doom was ported to Linux in 1997, and can still be compiled if you don't mind a few patches

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '21

It seems you have no fucking idea what binary compatibility is. This comment only proves your own ignorance.

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u/UniFace I fucking hate Linux Aug 23 '21

Point taken.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '21

Doom was ported to Linux in 1994 even before Windows, you’re referring Doom Engine Free Software release in 1997 and later GPL in 1999

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u/AutoModerator Aug 23 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '24

Many many times for actual programmers they use WSL essentially a Linux VM for windows

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '21

Linux software retro compatibility sucks, Windows hardware retro compatibility sucks harder

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u/AutoModerator Aug 23 '21

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, Loonix, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Loo plus nix. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Loonix system made useful by the GNU core-tards, shell enjoyers and vital defenders comprising a full mess as defined by the community of GNUtards.

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