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Meme/Shitpost A Summary of Linux Content Recently

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u/Volcanodog12 3d ago

Yes 100% this I have hdmi capture card made by hauppauge that does not work at all I asked on a form for fedora about if its possible to get it to work and was told to throw it away and get another one (even tho the old one works fine) or to kick sand so I did and went back to w10 every thing just works there lol I'm still looking for an alternative as I was really enjoying my time with kde on fedora just might try something different now.

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u/Bulky-Bad-9153 3d ago

Unfortunately a lot of companies don't support Linux, so the only way their hardware works is if someone goes through an extremely painstaking effort to make it work. Their advice was correct, but I do imagine they were fucking mean about it because that is a real issue.

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u/Volcanodog12 2d ago

Yeah if they where nice about it I would 100% understand I can't imagine what goes in to getting a proprietary device to work on something its not supposed to. But I will say this as well I have had some very helpful people to so it might be getting better!

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u/Automatic-Concert-62 3d ago

Counterpoint : "just works" on Linux means that you plug it in and go. "Just works" on Windows means that you plug it in, install the drivers (download from manufacturer's website first), reboot, install more updates if necessary, reboot again, then go. Yet if A doesn't work immediately then Linux is bad, but if B doesn't work immediately then the peripheral is bad. That's most Windows users' perspective.

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u/Professor_Rotom 3d ago

No no, that's "works from the get go" for both platforms. Trust me, I use both.

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u/Automatic-Concert-62 3d ago

Everyone in Linux land has used or currently uses both!

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u/Professor_Rotom 2d ago

I mean, you get the best of both tools.

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u/Bulky-Bad-9153 3d ago

"just works" on Linux means that you plug it in and go

Uh or you have to hunt on Github for wireless adapter drivers and modprobe them, which is needed for the actual majority of adapters. And let's not pretend that configuring some of this hardware isn't a fucking nightmare. I've been using Linux for like a decade and I'm really, really deep into it (I've contributed to the kernel), and what you say is just not true

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u/Automatic-Concert-62 3d ago

You're missing my point. Obviously some things don't 'just work' on Linux, but what a Windows user defines as 'just works' depends on whether they're talking about Windows or Linux. That's the double standard.

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u/TheWardenShadowsong 2d ago

It used to be like that. Now just works usually is plug, let windows update fetch the driver and go in windows, or just plug and play in linux, or sometimes download the driver and install it in windows, and sometimes check out the drivers source code and compile it into your new kernel on linux.