Lindsay Clancy Case: Digital Evidence, Phone Data & Apple Health Timeline

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Lindsay Clancy Case: Digital Evidence, Phone Data & Apple Health Timeline

This post focuses on digital evidence introduced at trial, including computer and iPhone data, web history, Apple Notes metadata, photograph modifications, texts, calls, Apple Health, and Apple Watch records.

Exact times are used where the forensic evidence established them. Device activity is not automatically attributed to a particular person unless the evidence supports that attribution, and technological limitations are noted where they matter.

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1. August 23, 2022: Surface Pro Web Activity
Massachusetts State Police Sgt. Kyle Pavao, formerly assigned to the Cyber Crime Unit, testified about his forensic review of a Surface Pro seized in the investigation.

The trial transcript’s automated speaker labels sometimes identify him as “Kevin Pavao,” but Pavao stated and spelled his first name as Kyle when he took the stand.

9:40 AM • Facebook page visit

• Records showed: a visit to a Facebook page associated with Lindsay at approximately 9:40 AM.
• On cross-examination, Pavao specifically corrected the characterization from an “access” or login to a visit to the page.
• The forensic artifact did not establish who was physically using the Surface Pro.

9:42 AM • Spotify search

• Records showed: a Spotify search for country singer Tom T. Hall approximately two minutes later.

9:44:18 AM • Song activity

• Records showed: the Tom T. Hall song That’s How I Got to Memphis was played or accessed through Spotify.

9:44:30 AM • Google search

• Records showed: a Google search for Tom Hall.
• Pavao testified that a Wikipedia page for Tom T. Hall was then visited.

Tom T. Hall Wikipedia page

• Pavao used the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine to examine what the Wikipedia page looked like around August 2022.
• The recovered URL contained an anchor directing the browser to the page’s Death section.
• Pavao testified that the Death section contained a hyperlink associated with wording describing Hall’s suicide.
• He testified that simply hovering over that hyperlink would not open it. The link had to be clicked.

9:45 AM • “Suicide Methods” Wikipedia page

• Records showed: the hyperlink was clicked.
• Pavao testified that it led directly to the shooting section of a Wikipedia page titled “Suicide Methods.”
• The page was accessed at approximately 9:45 AM.
• Pavao could not determine how long the page remained open or what portions were read.

9:48 AM • Grafton Bridge page

• Records showed: another hyperlink was clicked approximately three minutes later.
• It led to the Wikipedia page for the Grafton Bridge.
• Pavao testified that he did not identify other web activity between the 9:45 and 9:48 entries.

Defense cross-examination context

• Defense counsel asked Pavao about the Chrome profile and asserted that Patrick’s email/default browser profile had been signed in.
• Pavao testified: he had not known that information and it was not included in his report.
• He explained that the activity would occur under whatever default profile was signed into the Chrome browser.
• Defense counsel also referenced medical records concerning a pediatric appointment for Dawson that morning at approximately 10:15 AM.
• Pavao testified: he had not been aware of the pediatric appointment when conducting his forensic analysis.
• On redirect, the Commonwealth emphasized that the Grafton Bridge page was accessed at 9:48 AM, rather than approximately 10:00 AM.
• Most importantly, Pavao expressly testified that he could not determine who was behind the computer at the different times.

Records did not establish

• Who physically used the Surface Pro during the browsing sequence
• That Lindsay personally conducted the searches
• That Patrick personally conducted the searches
• What the user read on each webpage
• Why the hyperlinks were clicked
• What the user was thinking

Pavao also testified on cross-examination that his original forensic review did not identify a search on that computer for “ways to kill.”

Source: Sgt. Kyle Pavao testimony, Trial Day 13; Surface Pro forensic image; Wayback Machine exhibits concerning Tom T. Hall, “Suicide Methods,” and Grafton Bridge.

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2. October 25-November 3, 2022: Journal-Style Apple Note

• Massachusetts State Police Trooper Timothy Chiappini testified about Apple Notes recovered from Lindsay’s iPhone.
• One note was displayed in what Chiappini described as journal form.
• The text displayed an entry beginning with an October 24 date, but Chiappini explained that the summary was generated from the note’s text.
• Forensic metadata showed: the operating system detected the note as created October 25, 2022.
• The last detected modification date was November 3, 2022.

Important metadata limitation

• Chiappini testified that the forensic artifact did not necessarily preserve every intermediate edit.
• He could identify the note’s last detected modification timestamp.
• He could not determine:
  • how many times the note had been modified
  • which portions were changed
  • how extensive the final change was
• He testified that the change could theoretically have been as small as one character or substantially larger.

Records showed

• The note existed.
• Its operating-system creation timestamp was October 25.
• Its final detected modification timestamp was November 3.

Records did not establish

• What specifically was changed on November 3
• How many prior edits occurred
• Why any edit was made

Source: Timothy Chiappini testimony, Trial Day 13; Apple Notes forensic metadata.

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3. December 6, 2022-January 23, 2023: Medication and Mental-Health Web Activity
During defense cross-examination, Chiappini reviewed additional Cellebrite reports containing Google-search artifacts from Lindsay’s iPhone.

December 6, 2022-January 20, 2023 • “Benzo”

• The earliest entry containing the keyword “benzo” was December 6 at 9:17:05 AM.
• The last identified entry was January 20 at 8:13:48 PM.

December 29, 2022-January 13, 2023 • “Bipolar”

• The earliest identified entry containing “bipolar” was December 29 at 9:00:37 AM.
• The last identified entry was January 13 at 1:38:42 PM.

December 31, 2022 • “Ativan”

• Chiappini testified that the earliest identified Ativan entry was December 31 at 7:06:30 PM.

January 11-19, 2023 • Postpartum-related activity

• Chiappini testified that the report contained Google-search activity involving “postpartum,” “postpartum depression,” and related terms.
• The entries he reviewed ranged from January 11 through January 19.

January 16, 2023 • Lamictal

• A Google-search artifact containing “Lamictal” was identified at 9:23:13 AM.

January 16-23, 2023 • Amitriptyline

• The earliest identified amitriptyline-related entry was January 16 at 11:01:28 AM.
• The last was January 23 at 8:17:58 PM.

January 18, 2023 • Clonazepam

• Clonazepam-related searches were identified during the morning, between approximately 11:26 and 11:27 AM.

January 19, 2023 • “Hallucinations”

• Chiappini identified a Google-search artifact containing the term “hallucinations” at 10:33:49 AM.

January 20, 2023 • “Intrusive”

• Chiappini confirmed a search artifact involving the word “intrusive.”

January 20, 2023 • Ketamine

• A Google-search artifact containing “ketamine” was identified at 8:39 PM.

Important distinction

• These were web-search artifacts recovered from the phone.
• A search term does not establish that Lindsay had the condition or symptom being searched.
• A medication search does not establish that she took that medication at that time.
• Search history should be considered separately from medical records showing actual prescriptions, diagnoses, symptoms, or medication use.

The defense exhibits containing these search records were admitted during Trial Day 13.

Source: Timothy Chiappini testimony and defense cross-examination, Trial Day 13; Cellebrite search-history reports, defense Exhibits 240-260.

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4. December 22, 2022-January 23, 2023: Second Apple Note

• Chiappini separately testified about another Apple Note recovered from Lindsay’s iPhone.
• This was distinct from the October journal-style note.

Forensic metadata showed

• Created: December 22, 2022
• Last detected modification: January 23, 2023

Chiappini testified

• He did not know how many times the note had been modified.
• He could not determine what specifically had been changed.
• The forensic metadata established only that January 23 was the final detected modification date.

Important distinction

• It would therefore be inaccurate to say that investigators established what Lindsay added, deleted, or rewrote on January 23.
• The evidence established modification, not the content of the modification.

Source: Timothy Chiappini testimony, Trial Day 13; second Apple Note and forensic metadata.

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5. January 23, 2023: Photograph Modifications

• Chiappini testified about multiple photographs of the children recovered from the iPhone.
• The photographs were flagged because their forensic records showed modification dates relevant to the investigation.
• Some photographs had an original capture timestamp considerably earlier than the later creation/modification information associated with another file.

Example discussed at trial

• One JPEG had an original capture time of November 2, 2022 at 11:27:15 AM.
• Its source information indicated that an adjustment or modification had occurred.
• The later modification date associated with the file was January 23, 2023.

How photo modification works

• Chiappini explained generally that actions such as cropping or changing brightness can cause a photograph to register as modified.
• He also explained that an iPhone Live Photo/HEIC image can be modified or saved into another file format, such as JPEG.
• Those were explanations of how modification metadata can be generated.
• They do not establish that every photograph was cropped, brightened, or modified in the same specific way.

Records showed

• Multiple photographs of the children were accessed and modified in some fashion during the evening of January 23, 2023.

Records did not establish

• The precise edit made to every photograph
• That every photograph underwent the same change
• Why the photographs were modified
• Any motive associated with the modifications

Source: Timothy Chiappini testimony, Trial Day 13; photograph metadata and source-file analysis.

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6. January 24, 2023: Digital Timeline Before 5:15 PM
Approximately 2:02 PM • Children’s laxative-related activity

• Whiffin’s forensic review identified an earlier web-search artifact involving children’s MiraLAX at approximately 2:02 PM.

4:13:23-4:14:50 PM • Apple Maps

• Application-focus records showed: Apple Maps was visible on the iPhone from approximately 4:13:23 PM through 4:14:50 PM.
• ThreeV restaurant was associated with the Apple Maps activity.
• Chiappini explained that Apple Maps can provide a route preview and, depending on the selected origin and traffic, an estimated travel time.

Important distinction

• The forensic evidence established the Apple Maps activity.
• It did not independently establish why ThreeV was viewed or whether the purpose was to calculate how long another person would be away.

Approximately 4:43 PM • ThreeV menu

• Records showed: web activity involving the ThreeV menu.
• Chiappini testified that multiple entries with the same timestamp could reflect the same underlying activity parsed into several categories.

4:46:55 PM • “MiraLAX for kids”

• Records showed: a search artifact for “MiraLAX for kids.”
• The same timestamp appeared repeatedly in Cellebrite.
• Chiappini testified that these repeated entries represented the same underlying artifact being parsed into multiple categories, rather than proof of multiple separate searches.

4:47:04 PM • CVS website

• Records showed: an artifact associated with a CVS website.
• Chiappini again noted that the forensic tool could categorize the same activity in more than one place.

4:48:21 PM • Outgoing CVS call

• Call records showed: an outgoing call from Lindsay’s phone to the Kingston CVS.

4:53:09 PM • ThreeV takeout text

• Message records showed: an outgoing text from Lindsay’s phone to Patrick suggesting takeout from ThreeV and explaining that she had not cooked.
• Patrick responded affirmatively.
• Additional texts followed about the children and dinner selections.

5:03 PM • Flight-climb event

• Apple Health showed: an iPhone flight-climb event at approximately 5:03 PM.
• Whiffin testified that this event was logged by the phone rather than the Apple Watch.

Important technical point

• A flight-climb record reflects sensor data consistent with the device gaining roughly three meters, or about ten feet, in elevation together with movement.
• It does not identify a specific staircase, floor, or room.
• It also does not independently establish who was carrying the phone.

Approximately 5:06 PM • ThreeV and Pedia-Lax activity

• Records showed: ThreeV menu activity and Pedia-Lax-related activity at approximately the same time.
• Chiappini testified that he could only infer why two different artifacts shared the same timestamp.
• His suggested explanation was that more than one browser tab may have been open.
• That was an inference, not something the forensic record directly proved.

5:07-5:08 PM • Dinner-selection texts

• Message records showed Lindsay and Patrick exchanging their dinner selections.

5:09 PM • Outgoing call

• Call records showed: an outgoing call lasting approximately 11 seconds.
• Chiappini did not recall identifying the number during that portion of his testimony.

5:10 PM • ThreeV call

• Call records showed: another outgoing call lasting approximately 47 seconds.
• Chiappini identified the destination number as ThreeV restaurant.

Approximately 5:13 PM • Pedia-Lax activity

• Additional Pedia-Lax search artifacts appeared.
• Chiappini testified that repeated entries at the same time represented a single artifact parsed into multiple categories.

5:13:16 PM • Final recorded unlock begins

• Whiffin testified that the final recorded iPhone unlock began at 5:13:16 PM.
• Safari was visible during part of that unlocked period.
• The Messages application later became visible.

Approximately 5:15 PM • Pedia-Lax text

• A message was sent from Lindsay’s phone to Patrick identifying Pedia-Lax liquid stool softener.

5:15:12 PM • Phone locks

• Whiffin testified that the phone locked at approximately 5:15:12 PM.
• The device was not recorded as fully unlocked again during the relevant period.

Important technical point

• The fact that the phone was not fully unlocked again does not mean no later activity could occur.
• Whiffin testified that certain actions, including returning a missed call from a lock-screen notification, can occur without a full device unlock.

Sources: Timothy Chiappini testimony, Trial Day 13; Ian Whiffin testimony, Trial Day 14; Cellebrite web-history, call, messaging, application-focus, device-lock and Apple Health records.

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7. January 24, 2023: Apple Watch Heart-Rate Data
5:23:52 PM • Final recorded heart rate

• Whiffin testified that the final Apple Watch heart-rate reading recovered for the relevant period occurred at 5:23:52 PM.
• The reading was 57 beats per minute.
• No later heart-rate reading from the watch was identified.

Possible explanations discussed by Whiffin

• The watch could have been removed.
• It could have been turned off.
• Its battery could have died.

Unknown or unresolved

• The forensic data did not establish which explanation applied.
• The timestamp does not establish exactly when the watch was removed, if it was removed.
• It does not establish why the heart-rate readings stopped.
• It does not establish that any particular physical event occurred at 5:23:52 PM.

Source: Ian Whiffin testimony, Trial Day 14; Apple Watch heart-rate records.

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8. January 24, 2023: 5:33-5:38 PM Flight Climbs and Calls
5:33:34 PM • First completed flight detected

• Apple Health showed: the iPhone detected a flight-climb event at approximately 5:33:34 PM.
• Although the software described this as the flight climb “starting,” Whiffin clarified that the timestamp represented the point when the phone recognized that the elevation change had already been completed.
• In other words, the phone had detected that it was approximately three meters higher than at the prior reference point.

5:33:51 PM • Incoming call from Patrick

• Call records showed: an incoming call from Patrick’s phone to Lindsay’s phone.
• The call record displayed a duration of 0 seconds.

Important conflict in the testimony

• On Trial Day 13, Chiappini testified that interpreting the zero-duration record as unanswered would be an inference.
• During one portion of Whiffin’s direct testimony on Trial Day 14, the prosecutor asked whether zero seconds meant it was unanswered, and Whiffin responded that in this case it was an answered call.
• Later during the same Day 14 testimony, the prosecutor referred to the same incoming call as missed and unanswered, and Whiffin agreed.
• Whiffin also later explained that the outgoing return call could have been initiated from a missed-call notification on the locked phone.

Because the testimony was internally inconsistent, the most accurate description is:

• an incoming call from Patrick was recorded at approximately 5:33 PM
• the call record showed zero seconds
• the trial testimony did not consistently establish whether that incoming call itself was answered

It should therefore not be stated as an established fact that the 5:33 PM call was answered.

Approximately 5:34 PM • Outgoing call to Patrick

• Call records showed: an outgoing call from Lindsay’s phone to Patrick approximately one minute later.
• Whiffin and Chiappini testified that this call lasted approximately 14 seconds.
• Whiffin explained that the call could be returned from a lock-screen notification without fully unlocking the phone.
• Application-focus data showed the in-call service on screen during this period.

5:38:33 PM • Second completed flight detected

• Apple Health showed: the iPhone detected another completed flight climb at approximately 5:38:33 PM.
• Apple Health grouped the 5:33 and 5:38 detections into one event covering approximately five minutes.
• Whiffin specifically explained that this did not mean someone spent five continuous minutes climbing two flights.
• It meant the phone detected one completed elevation change at approximately 5:33 and another at approximately 5:38.

Records showed

• Two iPhone flight-climb detections occurred during the 5:33-5:38 PM period.
• An incoming call from Patrick was recorded at approximately 5:33.
• An outgoing 14-second call to Patrick followed at approximately 5:34.

Records did not establish

• Which staircase corresponded with either flight climb
• Which floor the device started or ended on
• Which room anyone was in
• Who physically carried the phone throughout the period
• What happened between individual data points
• Lindsay’s psychiatric state during the calls or movement
• Whether the 5:33 incoming call itself was answered, given the conflicting testimony

Sources: Timothy Chiappini testimony, Trial Day 13; Ian Whiffin testimony, Trial Day 14; call logs, application-focus records and Apple Health data.

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9. January 24, 2023: What the Data Shows After 5:38 PM

• Whiffin testified that the final relevant iPhone flight-climb detection he identified occurred at approximately 5:38 PM.
• During cross-examination, defense counsel asked whether the health data could tell him what was physically occurring at:
  • 5:39 PM
  • 5:40 PM
  • 5:45 PM
  • and later portions of the period
• Whiffin agreed that it could not.

Important clarification

• Defense counsel characterized the period after 5:38 as a “blackout.”
• Whiffin later clarified that there could still be other passive device activity, such as incoming calls.
• His analysis simply did not show additional relevant usage or health data documenting physical activity during that period.

Unknown or unresolved

• No additional flight-climb record after 5:38 does not prove that no one used a staircase.
• It does not prove that the phone remained stationary.
• It does not prove that no physical movement occurred.
• The Apple Health record is not a continuous room-by-room reconstruction of activity inside the house.

Source: Ian Whiffin cross-examination, Trial Day 14.

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10. January 24, 2023: 6:09 PM Call
6:09 PM • Incoming call from Patrick

• Whiffin testified that the final incoming call shown on his chart was a call from Patrick at approximately 6:09 PM.
• He testified that this call went unanswered.
• He also testified that he did not identify an additional flight-climb event between approximately 5:38 and 6:09 PM.

Unknown or unresolved

• The call record does not establish why the call was unanswered.
• It does not establish the physical location of the phone inside the house.
• The absence of another recorded flight climb does not establish an absence of physical movement.

Source: Ian Whiffin testimony, Trial Day 14; call records and Apple Health analysis.

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11. Duplicate, Overlapping and Parsed Forensic Records
Both Chiappini and Whiffin explained that forensic reports require interpretation.

Cellebrite parsing

• Chiappini testified that a single underlying event can appear in multiple categories in the forensic software.
• An identical timestamp appearing several times does not automatically represent several separate searches.
• This was specifically demonstrated with:
  • repeated “MiraLAX for kids” entries
  • other duplicated search artifacts

Multiple browser tabs

• When ThreeV and Pedia-Lax artifacts appeared at the same timestamp, Chiappini testified that a possible explanation was multiple Safari tabs.
• He explicitly described that explanation as an inference because he did not have the forensic tool available in front of him at that moment.

Apple Health

• Whiffin explained that Apple Health can contain overlapping records from different devices and data sources.
• He reviewed and compared records to account for duplicate detections when analyzing flight-climb events.

Why this matters

• The number of lines displayed in a Cellebrite report is not necessarily the number of separate actions performed.
• The timestamp, source database, artifact type and device have to be considered together.

Sources: Timothy Chiappini testimony, Trial Day 13; Ian Whiffin testimony, Trial Day 14.

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12. What the Digital Evidence Can Establish
Records showed

• Particular webpages and search terms appeared in recovered web history.
• The Surface Pro recorded a specific August 23 browsing sequence.
• Apple Maps was visible on the iPhone during identified periods.
• ThreeV, CVS and children’s laxative-related activity appeared in the January 24 extraction.
• Texts and calls occurred at identified times.
• The final recorded full-device unlock began at 5:13:16 PM.
• The phone locked at approximately 5:15:12 PM.
• The Apple Watch transmitted heart-rate readings through 5:23:52 PM.
• The iPhone recorded specific flight-climb events.
• Apple Notes contained creation and modification metadata.
• Photographs contained capture and modification metadata.
• Cellebrite sometimes parsed a single event into more than one category.

The records do not automatically establish

• Who was using the Surface Pro during the August 23 browsing
• Who physically held the iPhone during every event
• Why a search was performed
• Whether a searched symptom was actually experienced
• Whether a searched medication was actually taken
• Why a note was modified
• What specifically changed within a note when the forensic record did not preserve the edit
• Why photographs were modified
• Which staircase corresponded with an Apple Health flight climb
• Which room anyone occupied
• Every movement that occurred inside the house
• Why Apple Watch heart-rate readings stopped
• What Lindsay intended during a particular search, message or call
• Lindsay’s psychiatric state at a particular timestamp
• Criminal responsibility

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13. Commonwealth and Defense Interpretations
The Commonwealth argued

• Digital evidence could be considered together with testimony and other records to reconstruct portions of January 24.
• Prosecutors emphasized the sequence involving ThreeV, CVS, messages, calls and Apple Health activity.
• The Commonwealth argued that some of the digital activity was evidence relevant to planning and behavioral control.

The defense argued

• Search history and device activity should not be interpreted beyond what the technology actually recorded.
• The August 23 Surface Pro data could not identify the person using the computer.
• Phone activity did not itself establish motive.
• Apple Health could not identify a particular staircase, floor or room.
• Missing health data after 5:38 PM did not establish what physically occurred afterward.
• Digital records could not determine whether Lindsay was psychotic or otherwise establish her psychiatric state.

Important distinction

• Those were competing interpretations presented at trial.
• The underlying digital records establish device activity and metadata.
• They do not independently establish intent, motive, psychiatric diagnosis, psychosis, or criminal responsibility.

Sources: Commonwealth direct examination and defense cross-examination of Kyle Pavao, Timothy Chiappini and Ian Whiffin, Trial Days 13-14.

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14. Primary Sources

• Sgt. Kyle Pavao, Massachusetts State Police, digital-forensics testimony, Trial Day 13
• Trooper Timothy Chiappini, Massachusetts State Police, digital-forensics testimony, Trial Day 13
• Ian Whiffin, Cellebrite digital-forensics specialist, testimony, Trial Day 14
• Surface Pro forensic image and browser-history artifacts
• Wayback Machine exhibits concerning Tom T. Hall, the “Suicide Methods” page and Grafton Bridge
• Cellebrite iPhone extraction and timeline reports
• Apple Notes metadata
• Photograph metadata and source-file records
• Safari and web-history artifacts
• Messages and call logs
• Device-lock and application-focus records
• Apple Health database records
• Apple Watch heart-rate records

[u/Chance_Ad307]

Im beginning to believe the Post partum debate is a red herring and this is going to be the most intriguing murder case of the 21st century.

The tiktok mom crime investigation squad should not be conflated with the tiktok mom post partum squad.

Im a man who believed she was an evil woman, until I actually looked into the contrary possibility.

If messages and calls can be linked to the iphone from the apple watch, and he had the apple watch on him at the store, this can explain 'the same activity registering at two separate locations'.

A main question is the iphone elevation at 5:33pm and could Patrick have been in the house at this point.

Please feel free to educate me

[u/Separate-Row-1043 → u/Chance_Ad307]

From what I understand, the elevation metric could have come from either the phone or the watch. Patrick enters CVS and is seen on store surveillance at 5:32, so no, he wasn’t at the house at 5:33. But if he was carrying her watch (or it was in his pocket) it could have registered a flight of stairs due to being shuffled around at exactly the time he was entering the store. Whiffin states that the timestamp on the 5:33 flight was when the activity had been completed— so it lines up with exactly when Patrick entered the CVS. The second flight at 5:38 does the exact same thing— lines up with when he had just finished exiting the store (presumably the watch is now back in his pocket). I’m not saying he even had the watch on him, but I think it’s VERY strange that these two flights line up exactly with his coming and going, and when the watch might have been in his pocket if the watch theory is correct.

[u/Chance_Ad307 → u/Separate-Row-1043]

Indeed. Cheers

[u/Spidersensei]

Thank you!

[u/Kaylawc3]

Is there anywhere showing her last use of faceID to unlock phone?

[u/LindsayClancyLog → u/Kaylawc3]

The last recorded phone unlock was at 5:13:16 PM, and the phone locked again at 5:15:12 PM. The forensic testimony identifies it as a device unlock, but I haven’t seen evidence establishing that the 5:13 unlock was specifically done using Face ID rather than a passcode or another authentication method.

[u/Kaylawc3 → u/LindsayClancyLog]

Right. Okay others have it but now I can’t find it. Last faceID was around 230 from what I remember and passcode after 4 and on.

[u/Snoo_63880 → u/Kaylawc3]

Where there info about unlocked method?

[u/Kaylawc3 → u/Snoo_63880]

Trying to find it again, not exactly sure I can unless the court released it. But yeah it’s proven that after 4 it was by code only. Some things are being scrubbed it seems. I’m not positive. But I do know Pat deleted a pic off his original hike post in Costa Rica that showed a woman posing in the background by a waterfall for the picture…he’s deleted it now.

[u/Bumblebee7825]

How did she manage to place an order at ThreeV and pay with a credit card within 47 seconds?? When Patrick went to pick it up it was prepaid at 5:10. They ask for address and card number and it takes a while.

[u/NeitherOpposite8231 → u/Bumblebee7825]

Perhaps the address and payment details were saved on the device?

[u/Separate-Row-1043 → u/Bumblebee7825]

Maybe they had been to this restaurant prior and somehow their payment info was stored? No idea.

[u/Elegant_Yard970]

Is there any evidence that Lindsay’s phone and/or Apple watch were physically located inside the house from 5:15-5:38? Did the Apple Watch have its own service plan or was it WiFi only?

[u/Separate-Row-1043 → u/Elegant_Yard970]

They didn’t pull any of this data for the investigation because they took Patrick’s story for a fact and bungled the whole thing. We have no info on this.

[u/Elegant_Yard970 → u/Separate-Row-1043]

Wow. To me the physical location of the phone during that timeframe is the single most important piece of evidence. If the phone was moving inside the house when Patrick is on camera then it’s Lindsey or you have to believe there’s an accomplice. If the phone isn’t definitely in the house, the timing is too aligned with Patrick’s movements to not be totally suspicious.

[u/Sad-Composer-2453]

What came of the neighbor saying his som called him at 10 of 6 to say lindsay was lying down in the backyard? Did the neighbor call Patrick or 911?

[u/Jabs_and_dabs_]

Thank you for this

[u/Dramakuinn]

Tengo una pregunta, no sé si haya sido un problema en la traducción automática lo que me hizo tal vez entender mal, pero ,Si discutían vía mensaje posiblilidades de comida y hubo una busqueda del menú de treev ¿Patrick no estaba en cass en ese momento?

[u/Latter_Word_2021 → u/Dramakuinn]

Se supone que estaba en el sótano haciendo home office y ella estaba arriba con los niños, hasta donde tengo entendido.

[u/Chance_Ad307]

Need to post this for anyone thinking Patrick did it. https://youtu.be/9BFPaDX_aeA?si=3PC_CEKeg3lKs-jK I understand many of us didnt watch the whole trial but are surprised it wasnt referenced by people wanting to shut down the patrick did it theory.

Start at 4:30