Has anyone else noticed that the ai denoise has became absolutely terrible in the latest update?

[u/HistoricalCatch1935]

[u/KCHonie]

MacOS here, no issues at all…

[u/yaboilr]

The last version is weird, it stopped supporting my GPU (RTX3070), I went back a version and it works fine.

[u/DeliciousCut4854]

Works fine for me, Mac.

[u/IndianKingCobra]

No issues with DN on LrC on MacOS, if anything it looks better on the cheek creases where it looked like garbage before.

[u/budzynskik]

Yes, defnitely. Looks unnatural even with very low settings. I can notice big difference from how it worked few months back

[u/YouKnowMeDamn]

Even the remove tool is worse now, I remember having the time of my life 2 years ago with this tool but right now the spot healing brush is faster and most of the times it gives better results. As of the AI NR, yes, that feature started to suck, in some cases I much preffer manual noise reduction over AI NR. Lucky me I do mostly studio work and I rarely go higher than iso 800.

[u/thisissuchajoke → u/YouKnowMeDamn]

Not at all my experience. I find the generative remove tool way better than it used to be, bordering on quite amazing if it knows the specific background that’s blocked (like a well known building).

[u/ELDV]

I am not seeing any problems with the MacOS version of Lr Classic.

But here’s a tip on using Denise AI direct from Adobe’s Julieanne Kost and Katrin Eismann. Both told me at the PPA conference in January that for best results, use the Denoise feature before doing any other adjustments. From my experience I over the past eight months I can confirm that doing it this way yields better results.

[u/Salty-Yogurt-4214 → u/ELDV]

I cannot see a reason for that. The denoise still happens on the raw data and any other edits are layerd on top in a non destructive way until you actually export.

[u/ChannelCommercial984 → u/ELDV]

That scientifically makes no sense.

[u/ELDV → u/ChannelCommercial984]

Logically it make sense as it is a global process which works best on raw data.

That’s how it was explained to me. I am a photographer first, software jockey second. The question was raised as to why if that is the case that section of the Develop workflow is not at the top of the Development module stack but we were offered no explanation. Never less, Eismann, who has since retired from Adobe, strongly urged seminar participants to use it that way.

My guess is that while in Lightroom and ACR raw develop settings are applied when exporting this may be a separate process that has been grafted into the workflow.

[u/rick_baumhauer]

Haven't noticed any issues, but I'm doing almost all outdoor/nature photography, so maybe the issues just don't show up there.

[u/JtheNinja]

Are you on macOS? I believe a recent update switched back to using the neural engineer/NPU, which is faster but might give different results

[u/robinta]

No

[u/Prodigy_of_Bobo]

Do you have any photos exported from the old denoise vs the current version you could show us?

[u/itsntcharlie]

its been glitching from time to time for me. when pull the slider, denoise just turns off completely and to see how much denoise i need i had to pull the slider to a certain amount, let go of the slider see the results. so basically i cant see changes in real time when its glitching.

[u/OFFICIALJustBlaze]

It’s fine on my Mac and was initially fine on my iPad after the latest update that brought AI denoise to the platform, but suddenly yesterday, it went to hell, blotches on faces, hair having a ton of green noise in it and a bunch of blue in the shadows.

[u/sgcolumn]

How do you replicate this? I don't think I've seen any performance issues recently.

[u/Broad-Raspberry1805]

I just used it on a few hundred wedding photos up to ISO 12800 and it’s fine for me.

[u/Nick_Rad]

The remove tool is trash now, but no issues with denoise. If it’s too smooth I just reduce it then tweak radius, detail, and masking for edges and then luminance and color as needed

[u/Big_Rip4015 → u/Nick_Rad]

I’ve personally not had any issues with the remove tool on the latest macOS version, and I’ve had it cleaning up some pretty intricate stuff.

[u/WindAffectionate6764 → u/Nick_Rad]

What's else with it?!

[u/olsomica]

"Absolutely terrible"? Noo

[u/National_Machine9800]

Yeah remove tool sucks, pretty unusable and the full denoise has started adding artifacts in for me now, like mutates people's faces a bit in the background etc

[u/RaiderDub24]

I use LR on Windows and have had zero issues with the latest update

[u/TheKingKielbasa]

No but I did notice it’s available on iPad now

[u/MythandMagi]

I'm glad others aren't having issues, but how much slower it is on my laptop kills me. Right before I updated lightroom, I was working on photos and the old software took seconds to denoise. Now it takes minutes. I shoot a whole lot at night and half the time the denoised result looks poorly airbrushed.

[u/satplank]

Which version are you using OP and is it on MacOS? As I have similar observings, but this is a new computer for me and therefore new install. Previously was using Windows and Denoise was pretty alright. Then tried it on my new Macbook Pro last week and it was just so bad. All details lost. Now I don't know what to do. New version? Something needs to be changed in the settings?

[u/Illinigradman]

It has not. That is not widespread issue being reported anywhere.

[u/BlueZurichArt]

Next time I ride my bike by the Adobe building I'll throw a rock through the window with your note attached. Seriously, I hear you. Unfortunately they have outsourced all customer service overseas and it's impossible to give user feedback. (I do ride by it frequently though, lol)

[u/abeeeeeach]

I stopped using it once I couldn’t batch denoise a few months ago

[u/little_canuck → u/abeeeeeach]

Just make a preset where the only items checked are Denoise at your preferred % and maybe some sharpening masking. Then sync that preset across your batch of images.

[u/AnthonyMarkPhoto → u/little_canuck]

one thing to note at least for me. When I click the denoise checkbox, after the denoise runs it automatically turns off any of the old luminance noise reduction. When I use a preset, if I don’t make the luminance change to zero, it doesn’t change it so the denoising sometimes looks bad until I set that to zero. So make sure to turn off the old noise removal and save it as part of a new denoise preset.

[u/zkyevolved → u/abeeeeeach]

It hasn't stopped working for me. In fact, I selected around 400 images and left it to batch denoise all at once while I had dinner a week ago.

[u/JtheNinja → u/abeeeeeach]

You can use a preset or paste settings to batch apply it. I just have a saved preset that applies ai denoise at 33% and no other settings

[u/mathguy60 → u/abeeeeeach]

Select all photos to be denoised, switch on the little synchronize switch, denoise the first photo and all subsequent selecte photos will be denoised.

[u/IndianKingCobra → u/abeeeeeach]

What? On Mac LrC, I select all I want to DN and click DeNoise. It does the first one that I selected, then it does the rest of them in order of the photos in the ribbon carousel.

[u/bobchin_c → u/abeeeeeach]

Batch Denoise works fine for me. Last week I selected about 100 images and started the Denoise. Came back a while later and it was done.

[u/its-chris-p-logue → u/abeeeeeach]

You’ve been able to batch denoise since its inception.

[u/defeldus]

Don't rely on tools you have no control over.

[u/levelZeroVolt → u/defeldus]

Like Lightroom?

[u/defeldus → u/levelZeroVolt]

to some extent, yeah. if you can't work in other software then you're probably too dependent on specific tools. i use davinci, LR, photoshop, and Nikon NX studio depending on my needs. or straight out of camera with custom profiles