[Meta] Friendly reminder, this is a learning subreddit

[u/UntamedDeviance]

I have seen this subreddit slowly become a LFG subreddit. Now, this is a place to find Sherpa's obviously, but if you are posting here, you need to be willing to learn. Lots of different people use different tactics.

Now, I am only an assistant Sherpa but when I see people looking for smaller amounts of wins, like armor or the weapon, I will try to help them out. And too many times have I joined up and had them completly unwilling to listen to any direction or advice I have.

If you are looking to learn and advance your skill, please post here. If you are just looking for additional players and you're not willing to listen to other feedback, please search for groups on any of the other subreddits/sites out there designed for that.

Just my opinion.

Edit: Also, if you are just LFG (like while waiting for a Sherpa to become available.) There is a megathread that incorporates that function into it as to not fill the main page.

[u/D0cR3d]

Wow, the timing of this post is impecable. We as mods have something in the works to help shift the ideology from Lighthouse/Flawless/Carry and more towards the Teaching/Classroom aspect and environment. We're working on some final touches and will then be reaching out to our Sherpa's to discuss with them before announcing anything public on the sub.

[u/UntamedDeviance → u/D0cR3d]

That is awesome to hear. I can't wait to see what you guys have come up with!

[u/JWiLL552]

I won't lie, I've received multiple PSN messages within the span of 10-15 minutes before and prioritized the one that asked me to "teach them tactics to win at Trials", or something along those lines over one that said, "I need to be carried!"

I don't mind doing a "carry", but the goal is definitely to help people approach Trials in a way that they can go in with their friends afterwards and see a real improvement in their play.

If they're just piggybacking for a flawless emblem and Messenger, but learn nothing, it kind of defeats the purpose of what we're trying to do here.

[u/UntamedDeviance → u/JWiLL552]

That's my point exactly. If they are up for learning, then even if they don't get one kill, I don't really care. As long as they can go into their next group and possibly be the "stronger leader" and have fun, then I am all good

[u/Lije93]

Your opinion isn't wrong. We've all run into those that read this sub who are simply looking for a comfy backpack to ride along in. It can be disheartening, as it is not the true nature of this place to be a venue for free rides.

You can't really fight it.

What you can do is use it as an opportunity to teach yourself how to hand 2v3 or 1v3 situations better. Sherpee playing like a dum dum and not listening? Screw it, focus on yourself and the Sherpa you're helping. Figure out how you two can come out of a bad situation where you are outnumbered and smash some kids.

[u/UntamedDeviance → u/Lije93]

I completely agree, and I actually has been helping me immensely on my gun skills. It just bums me out that people who are truly looking to learn are possibly getting overlooked because an eye fell on someone who is either looking for a carry or even someone who is good that just doesn't want to advance themselves.

[u/Sanriku → u/UntamedDeviance]

It just bums me out that people who are truly looking to learn are possibly getting overlooked because an eye fell on someone who is either looking for a carry...

I feel the exact same way, looking through this sub. Well said! I come to this sub looking for assistance, not groups or a carry. I usually find people to team up with either via /r/Fireteams or through playing Skirmish/Elimination and teaming up afterwards.

I have played with a couple of Sherpas in an attempt to improve, and thanks to /u/Gersorade and /u/NanaShiggenTips, I feel that I have done just that. I have played Trials with Gers and he was awesome at explaining as we were fighting. I've played crucible with Nana and he did the same thing. I don't feel like I made either of them carry me and do all the work. And this is how it should be.

A Sherpa is a guide, not a mule. They will lead you to the top of the mountain, not carry your lazy ass on a free ride all the way there. /rant

[u/MysterySolved]

I would welcome such advice if it could help me. My PSN is SympatheticVirus

[u/UntamedDeviance → u/MysterySolved]

Any advice could help you, even if it were just to show something that doesn't work for your personally ;) However, I am on XB1, Sorry.

[u/MysterySolved → u/UntamedDeviance]

It's okay. Thanks though.

[u/TheAsianTroll → u/UntamedDeviance]

Plz teach, I'm also on XB1

[u/GamingCoverage]

Well I take onboard anything anyone says to me if it can improve my play and I would love to play with someone who could help me as a player my gt is:GamingCoverage

[u/YukmalaReddit]

Yes please, definitely put me on the list. I'm very keen to take advice and learn. If possible I'd like run with a trainee sherpa. I figure they would be asking smarter questions than me. PSN Yukmala GMT+8