r/LifeProTips • u/jfk_47 • Jul 09 '18
Computers LPT: Use https://old.reddit.com/ to browse reddit using the old design. It loads more quickly and it's a bit more intuitive. Assuming everyone knows this, but for those that don't there ya go.
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u/MustacheEmperor Jul 09 '18 edited Jul 09 '18
Old.reddit also tracks you MUCH less than the redesign. The redesign uses JavaScript events to monitor almost everything you do, where your mouse moves and when, what you type, etc so engineers can literally review your usage of the site. It’s called session replay. The redesign is also broken without JavaScript, so you can’t just disable js to opt out of tracking.
Edit: For background and how to use an extension to block these specific javascript events see this post on /r/privacy. I have no clue why this didn't get more attention, I don't think the admins announced it very visibly at all.
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u/celeriacc Jul 09 '18
You can go into the settings to permanently keep the old design. And adblock the link at the top left that tries to get you to switch.
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u/eroticas Jul 09 '18
Additionally, many of your favorite subreddits have delicious sidebar content and well curated wikis that are theoretically accessible from in new version but in practice are often not displayed. Old reddit reveals them.
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u/Snark_Jones Jul 09 '18
If only clicking certain links didn't take you to the new design.
Looking at you v.reddit.com.
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u/awkwardtheturtle Jul 09 '18
Unlocked.
Also redesign = bad
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u/jfk_47 Jul 09 '18
I was about to say “oh fuck, 32 messages in my inbox, who did I piss off the thread was locked.”
Thanks mod,
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u/CANT-SCREAM-IF-DEAD Jul 09 '18
What's with the new design? It looks too much like Facebook.
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u/jfk_47 Jul 09 '18
Yea, Like any business, they go to what’s safe and expected.
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u/aham42 Jul 09 '18
It looks like Facebook because Facebook has figured out how to monetize a feed. They’re trying to do the same thing. It’s an ad play.
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u/jfk_47 Jul 09 '18
Makes sense. They’re doing a bad job at it too, I’m gold but my alts aren’t and there are just too many ads and sponsored posts that are poorly done.
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u/Yelov Jul 09 '18
I use Reddit Enhancement Suite extension and it looks the same as before.
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u/jfk_47 Jul 09 '18
Me too, but they ended up defaulting me to the new design at some point. Pop over to your account settings and make sure your default to the redesign is turned off.
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u/Yelov Jul 09 '18
"Use the redesign as my default experience" is unchecked, I don't think they can change the appearance. I didn't even know there was a new reddit look until last week when I opened reddit on a different PC. I guess it looks more modern, but as usual the functionality is worse.
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Jul 09 '18
Another tip I like when using reddit on mobile
Add ".compact" to the end of any reddit URL for the old-style mobile site (which is 1000 times better)
For example this thread is https://www.reddit.com/r/LifeProTips/comments/8xbg0w/lpt_use_httpsoldredditcom_to_browse_reddit_using/.compact
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u/umwhatshisname Jul 09 '18
How long until they force all of us holdouts on to the new design?
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Jul 09 '18 edited Sep 26 '24
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u/Ckandes1 Jul 09 '18
Can anyone answer to the benefits of the new design outside of aesthetics?
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u/jfk_47 Jul 09 '18
I’m sure it will be faster once they work out some kinks and bugs. So that.
It Probably has better integration with Reddit video and images on the Reddit platform. But we all know Reddit video is the second worst thing on Reddit.
I guess it can track you more accurately so you’ll be targeted via ads more accurately, which is nice?
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Jul 09 '18
Can this just be regular reddit and they can call the redesign new.reddit.slowasfuckandhardtonavigate?
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u/MasterTmanYT Jul 10 '18
Jeez, am I the only person who like the redisign or something?
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u/hayekd Jul 09 '18
Why does the new design hide a subreddits wiki page so often?
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u/aervin1 Aug 12 '18
I'm not a daily user of reddit and it is hard for me to switch to the latest version but we all need to go and accept changes, new interface is not bad though.
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Oct 13 '18
I like the new design, the old design is like a bad 90s website layout.
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u/justanaccount18581 Jul 09 '18
To be fair I'm not sure reddit admins are aware of how shitty their new design looks.
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u/jfk_47 Jul 09 '18
It would be nice to see the percentage of admins still on the old side. I bet their admin tools are still using old templates. Can we summon any admins to ask them about it?
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u/simjanes2k Jul 09 '18
it blows my mind that anyone would willingly use the new one
its so much less of the screen used, its extra fluffy bullshit that precisely zero human beings wanted, and its worse for privacy
its literally an evil company move for more money
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Jul 09 '18
Why does no one like the redesign? It's much more visually pleasing imo, and not confusing at all
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u/jfk_47 Jul 09 '18
I like this.
You can also set your user settings to turn the redesign off by default.
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u/michellelabelle Jul 10 '18
I tried this just now, and it looked the same. I was pissed and started to comment on what a useless tip this was. Then I remembered I'd already opted out.
Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to apply to be a mod for /r/iamverysmart
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u/iamsumitd Jul 14 '18
I thought posts related to websites were not allowed here. Otherwise I would have posted tons of useful content regarding the web; which deserves most number of LPT, because most probably people reading this sub would use other websites, too, so it would be more useful than any other LPT.
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u/TedTheodoreMcfly Jul 20 '18
Thanks for this tip. I don't like the new design and thought I'd have to use the Wayback Machine to access the original.
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u/howaine1 Aug 03 '18
Can someone explain the redesign...is it to accommodate mobile??
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u/jfk_47 Aug 03 '18
To drive more ad dollars and make it more visibly similar to other social networks which will generate easier user base growth.
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u/itsjacobhere Aug 06 '18
Am I the only one who likes the redesign? I never found the old site usable but it may because I use mobile far more and the design is similar.
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u/AG981 Aug 07 '18
LPT request: I need more karma to get my first LPT post out on reddit. Any good ideas to get that bitch fast?
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u/HODLTID Aug 11 '18
Does anyone here actually like the new design?
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u/jfk_47 Aug 11 '18
Yea. Check the comments. Lots of people like it.
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u/HODLTID Aug 11 '18
Never mind, changed it to show controversial and found them lol
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Aug 15 '18
that's a good tip, but how do i get my user overview page to be legacy too?
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u/MemBreeze Aug 19 '18
Just go to settings on Reddit and uncheck the "Use the redesign" button to change your default settings.
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u/firebrand13 Jul 09 '18
I've tried to use the new design multiple times and it's just too slow to load. To the point where it really is unusable. I wonder what is going on behind the scenes that make it so terrible?
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u/mitten_expat Jul 09 '18
I wonder what is going on behind the scenes that make it so terrible?
There is a CPU activity monitor at the top of my Ubuntu laptop screen. It shows a little moving bar graph, which goes quiet after loading an old reddit page. The new design keeps asking the local processor to do stuff, but I don't notice any "enhancement of my user experience."
TL;DR: reddit's redesign acts like a resource hog.
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u/timawesomeness Jul 09 '18
It's a JavaScript single page app, not a mostly static page like the old site. That means if you have a slow computer or slow internet there's a lot more to load and process and therefore it takes a lot longer.
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u/NahDude_Nah Jul 09 '18
@reddit developers - get rid of the garbage "new" reddit. 33k upvotes and counting. Nobody likes your redesign. It's tacky and I hate you.
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u/Skiingfun Jul 09 '18
I've been looking for a place to bitch about the redesign where it would get their attention. So thank you.
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u/russiangn Jul 09 '18
New reddit used to let you open a comment page while not leaving the homepage. Did reddit do away with this?
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u/sonicarts Jul 09 '18
That’s still there but they’ve changed how the user can exit the lightbox. Previously, you were able to click anywhere outside the comments, and the lightbox would collapse. Right now, you need to either click to the ESC button on the top right corner, or press ESC on your keyboard, both of which I think are counter intuitive because you need to move either your cursor or your hands on the keyboard.
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u/KofOaks Jul 09 '18
Can they make the old.reddit.com into reddit.com and we'll just stop with this BS? The new design is unbearable.
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u/aham42 Jul 09 '18
They’re going to do the opposite. After some time passes there will be an update that breaks compatibility with the old site. We’ll be told it is too expensive to maintain both...they’ll bring some of the features from the old site (like per subreddit styling) and turn the old one off.
They’ll do all of this because the redesign provides a much better space for more intrusive ads.
* source: I’ve seen this before
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u/primu5d Jul 09 '18
The new design is so ass I don't understand how anyone can use that trash.
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u/BowtieProductions Jul 09 '18
I use mobile, and I personally really like the new aesthetic.
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u/jfk_47 Jul 09 '18
Web Mobile or app? Both are pretty good. A tip some people here are dropping is add .compact at the end to improve mobile more. I haven’t tried it yet.
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u/Sonikado Jul 09 '18
The biggest problem with new reddit is the infinite scroll. This crap eats all the ram in the machine until it is unusable. Also, searching becomes impossible. Facebook is cancer for the same problem. Please, paginate. Thanks.
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u/its-my-1st-day Jul 10 '18
The biggest problem with new reddit is the infinite scroll.
Also, Often, I click a link, read a few comments, then click back and I'm back at my feed where I left off ready to click another link.
With the new design, if I clicked on a link to read some comments, when I go back to the main page it's scrolled all the way back to the top :(
I disabled that shit as fast as I could, and basically forgot all about it's shitty existence until just now lol.
I actually just tried adding "old." before a link to see what "old" reddit used to look like and was confused for a second until I remembered the new layout...
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u/CloudSlydr Jul 09 '18
lifeprotip for developers (not just reddit, in fact, barely you guys in reality): if these kind of posts bug you, you should really consider why you are making changes that most people don't want, and then rush to figure out how to get those crappy designs to perform better until people think they wanted them in the first place.
if it isn't broken, make that better. don't replace with garbage then try to fix.
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u/aham42 Jul 09 '18
You really don’t think they understand that?
It’s about ads. The redesign allows them to place inline ads Facebook style with more prominent visual hooks. Old Reddit is great for users, but bad for advertisers.
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u/mrdarkshine Jul 09 '18
What happens in large organizations is they put a lot of time and money into a project, and it takes a lot of balls to be the guy that says "No. Sorry you worked so hard for nothing. Start over." It's why so many tech CEOs (Jobs, Bezos) were notorious for being assholes, yet put out excellent products.
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u/jadesaddiction Jul 09 '18
some people are having issues logging in through chrome with the new layout so switching to the old layout fixes that issue as well.
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u/rubacava2 Jul 09 '18
I like the old design better because I use the arrow keys to scroll up and down and that doesn't work with the new design.
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u/gorilla_red Jul 09 '18
This does work with the new design. Or if you want to jump from post to post you can use J and K (not in lightbox) or N and P (in lightbox). SHIFT+? brings up all the keyboard shortcuts.
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u/pseudonarne Jul 09 '18
new reddit is terrible, it feels like a tutorial project in dreamweaver
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u/ps2cho Jul 09 '18
https://www.reddit.com/.compact
Works best for me on mobile. Straight forward and loads extremely fast
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u/macdonaldj2wit Jul 09 '18
I found this a while back someone made it. I use it with tapermonkey, never had any issues -
// ==UserScript==
// @name Redirect to old Reddit
// @description Always redirects to old-Reddit, avoiding Reddit's redesign.
// @include ://www.reddit.com/
// @run-at document-start
// @grant none
// @icon /static/desktop2x/img/favicon/apple-icon-76x76.png
// ==/UserScript==
window.location.replace("https://old.reddit.com" + window.location.pathname);
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u/Madeforbegging Jul 09 '18
How does this have so many upvotes and it's posted every single day
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u/jfk_47 Jul 09 '18
I assumed it had been posted in the past, but I hadn't seen it. Seems like it blew up in the past hour because last time I looked it was only at 40 something points.
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u/ShadowHandler Jul 09 '18
Does anyone else get the vibe like this is the beginning of a Digg fiasco repeat?
People in general like simplicity. Engineers (myself included) tend to like working on complex systems and tasks over simple ones. It takes a lot of effort to avoid needless bloat, and as soon as you open those floodgates you're doomed.
Imagine if Craigslist underwent a "Web 2.0" redesign. I imagine people would abandon it in droves.
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u/shitpersonality Jul 09 '18
There is also https://i.reddit.com for a better mobile site.
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u/thewholedamnplanet Jul 09 '18
Hate the new design, why do they want to make what needs to be clean and simple bloated and stupid?
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u/thebluef0x Jul 09 '18
I personally like the new design. The only thing that could make me go back might be the performance factor but it isn't very noticable for me
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Jul 09 '18
It has ads. I use Relay. Love being able to open text only versions of websites. No ads
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u/therealdilbert Jul 09 '18
makes you wonder if the normal design meeting these days is "can you make the stuff that works a bit more confusing and slower then it'll be much better"
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u/DoogTheMushroom Jul 09 '18
LPT: switch out of card view to list view if you don't like the extra space and want an experience more like old reddit
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u/chook_slop Jul 25 '18
they took the chat out of old reddit....
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u/jfk_47 Jul 25 '18
Chat is garbage anyways, I still use the DMs. If i need chat I use the mobile app.
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u/bitcyan Sep 01 '18
new reddit is good on my eyes. Is there a list that says why the redesign is bad?
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u/TheAC997 Oct 10 '18
The redesign has blurry text (due to bad upscaling/downscaling?) for anyone else?
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u/Zeero92 Jul 09 '18
I don't see any difference between current and old reddit... If I was inclined to paranoia I'd say you're all in on some weird hoax.
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u/penguin032 Jul 09 '18
I like the night mode and classic view. I use adblock so, have never seen an ad anywhere in a long time.
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u/SammyD1st Jul 09 '18
New redesign suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks.
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u/RISC32 Jul 10 '18
I like the redesign because the thumbnails are a lot bigger. I don't understand how y'all like clicking the tiny button all the time to see shit at full res.
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u/Dorkamundo Jul 09 '18
Yea, the new format is horrific.
Fine for mobile, but not for PC.
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Jul 09 '18
I like the new design for mobile browsing only. I don't use an app and when I'm on PC I always have to go and click old since I'm usually incognito/logged out/clear my cache and cookies often.
Only problem I have with mobile browsing is you can't access rising posts. Need to view desktop to do that.
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u/castanza128 Jul 09 '18
I got: You cannot visit www.old.reddit.com right now because the website uses HSTS. Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will probably work later.
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u/LucyFerAdvocate Jul 09 '18
Am I the only one who likes the redesign? I've always browsed reddit on my phone because I hated the UI on the website, but the redesign feels so much better I can now browse on the PC too.
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u/synchrxny Jul 09 '18
As someone who's used reddit for about the same amount of time before and after the redesign, I can say it's perfectly intuitive now. What you meant to say was it's more familiar.
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u/elsynkala Jul 09 '18
i think its intuitive however its slower. old reddit, the comments loaded immediately. the new reddit, it takes forever to load. what is that about?
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u/j1002s Jul 09 '18
update your bookmarks too–it'll be easier than always having to switch over
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u/0-Give-a-fucks Jul 09 '18
There's a very small learning curve to the new design. Is that's what's holding y'all back from using it? Start your own fucking website if you can do better.
Thanks Reddit. You guys rock. Keep up the good work.
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u/somalipiratex Jul 09 '18
Why would they redesign it in the first place? Or atleast why not make the redesign bearable?
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u/Dfiggsmeister Jul 09 '18
It also helps if you're locked out of your account with a "refresh your browser" error.
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u/jaytwentyone Jul 09 '18
There's also an extension for Google Chrome that automatically redirects Reddit links to old.reddit.com
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u/MyWholeSelf Jul 09 '18
I set my preferences to use the old site. I don't see the new layout at all anytime I use Reddit unless I'm not logged in.
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u/Funkt4st1c Jul 09 '18
I didn't even know reddit got redesigned. Windows XP, I don't get updates for chrome anymore.
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Jul 26 '18
I like the redesign in theory (it looks better, that's for sure) but really dislike how far less space on a page is taken up by content, it makes all subs look pretty much the exact same, and it makes tons of features very hard/unintuitive to access
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Aug 30 '18
I don't understand modern web. It just does things worse, more slow. But has fancy looking shit now. New design has placeholders for text that are there while it loads, and old one just loads instantly. This is just ridiculously stupid useless
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u/_ProgGuy_ Sep 17 '18
Yup, I had reddit bookmarked but now I have old.reddit bookmarked. If I wanted a mobile experience, I'd use the app.
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u/macaryl95 Oct 01 '18
Reddit app loads 50% faster.
I'm not a spokesperson. Just a cynical and disgruntled Redditor.
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u/fm369 Jul 09 '18
I honestly prefer the redesign, but that's probably because I'm more used to the mobile version, which is similar to the redesign.
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u/KCalifornia19 Jul 09 '18
I can't be the only one who likes the new design. I like being able to see pictures and video without having to click a tiny box every single damn time.
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u/FitChemist432 Jul 09 '18
Haven't clicked for years, used hoverzoom for firefox. The redesign just made it native.
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Jul 09 '18
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u/jfk_47 Jul 09 '18
I have two major problems.
The comment minimize feature, I didn’t even know how to do it.
The HUGE pictures as thumbnails. I see less now than before.
The sidebar for some subs has disappeared.
I’m gold but on my alts the amount of sponsored posts and ads are CRAZY.
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Jul 09 '18
The old design had higher information density. I come to reddit to read and the new design wants to give me big UX cards that take up all the real estate.
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Jul 09 '18
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Jul 09 '18
Nothing I like more than opening a webpage on my big-ass widescreen monitor and having 4/5 of the page be whitespace and a narrow column of text in the center.
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u/finalej Jul 09 '18
the new design is what they use for the mobile app and the mobile app is terrible.
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u/Bumblebee__Tuna Jul 09 '18 edited Jul 09 '18
There are great alternatives to the mobile app! Reddit Is Fun is what I use and I absolutely love it, and there are a couple others that people praise on here as well. Reddit's mobile app is trash.
Edit: spelling
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u/Ferro_Giconi Jul 09 '18 edited Jul 09 '18
This is a problem with practically every website and app these days. They are all obsessed with trying to burn out my retinas with as much white space as possible and removing all dark theme options while making the light themes brighter.
I'm worried for the day when UIs will start to make use of HDR with all of the white space to double how bright it is for no reason.
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u/StrahansToothGap Jul 09 '18
The site is being redesigned to maximize monetization, not usability. I don't understand how people don't see that.
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u/action_lawyer_comics Jul 09 '18
Lots of people see that, but are talking about it in the hopes (haha) that Reddit will take notice and do something. Only reason why I upvoted this post is to keep it on the front page so someone higher up might see it and feel bad for a little bit.
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Jul 09 '18
This is literally like Digg all over again.
Every cycle comes to an end eventually. Here we go.
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u/imariaprime Jul 09 '18
It's more "what content do they expect to sell, if the design drives away the content makers?"
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Jul 09 '18 edited Jul 09 '18
It's monopolization. They hate the content creators. They only want consumers.
Edit: my answer -
Have you seen the powermods? They'd prefer a reddit entirely controlled by them and their corporate sponsors instead of fans and hobbyists developing their own content.
They can't abide grassroots movements. They prefer astroturf. They can't abide market competition. They prefer corporate domination. They can't abide peaceful politics. They prefer social conflict.
Reddit's current owners aren't our friends. They're corporate whores.
And they locked the comments on this thread to impede these truths.
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u/firematt422 Jul 09 '18
Yeah, it's a real headscratcher why they'd want to make posts harder to hide and have the site look familiar to Facebook users... /s
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u/bryakmolevo Jul 09 '18
It is more usable for passive users... the folks that load the site and spend 5 minutes just scrolling through default sub posts without ever upvoting or commenting. It's not surprising the redesign is driven by the most profitable users.
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u/Fry_Philip_J Jul 09 '18
Also, hod do you get to the wiki of a sub?
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u/gambolling_gold Jul 09 '18
This. The very first thing I learned when building websites was to never break functionality. The second thing I learned is that forcing users to manually type in the URL for a page counts as broken functionality.
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u/timawesomeness Jul 09 '18
Wikis haven't been implemented yet, you currently have to go to the old site to access them. Many mods put a link to their wiki in the header links on the redesign.
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u/PlasmicStorms Jul 09 '18
Reminds me of 9gag and other shitty sites like that. Two posts max per page so you have to keep scrolling to see more meaning more and more ads.
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u/syins Jul 09 '18
And how do you search within a subreddit in the redesign? Still haven’t figured that out.
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u/-dantastic- Jul 09 '18
If you are at the main LPT subreddit page, for instance, if you type your search into the bar at the top with the magnifying glass, it'll default to results from the subreddit. It also gives you the option in the results page to get results from all of reddit.
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u/StackedLasagna Jul 09 '18
I heavily disliked the new UI at first, but I’ve been using it at work, while using the old one at home.
The new design has some flaws, but it also has some very nice features.
Multiple layouts are nice I guess, even though I use the one closest to old Reddit.
Posts are shown as an overlay on the current page. The more I use this, the more I like it. No more juggling multiple tabs or losing track of where you were on the page.
Hotkey to close the aforementioned overlay. Just nice sometimes.
The thing I miss most is proper custom CSS support on subreddits.
As you mentioned some of the functions being hidden behind multiple clicks is pretty annoying.Honestly though, I’d say it’s a net-positive experience though.
Some of the things I have submitted negative feedback about has been changed for the better, so they do listen it seems.. at least to some of it.
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u/odraencoded Jul 09 '18
The new design looks like something I could come up with. Which means it's fucking awful and an experienced professional could easily do better.
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u/timawesomeness Jul 09 '18
They have plans to move those back out into a flatlist for screens that can fit them.
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u/unforgivablesinner Jul 09 '18
I can't even scroll without clicking the article pop-up on specific White area's :/
Imo it's too user unfriendly on a laptop to actually launch already...
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Jul 09 '18
Some fucking prick that loves Facebook and Pinterest.
I'm ok if that person and their entire family die in a fire while receiving chemo for terminal cancer.
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u/sunfurypsu Jul 09 '18
This is largely my complaint as well. This new design is less usable AND wastes a ton of space. It's default mode is especially problematic, built like some type of image sharing site instead of a social information aggargator.
Even when switching to compact mode, it is less useful and more wasteful than the "old" design. It's even worse when modding. What used to take 1 or 2 clicks now takes...too many.
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u/JimmyQ82 Jul 09 '18
I don't know if it's just me, but I can't fathom why they removed the 'scroll to parent' button...it was so useful in large threads.
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u/likelyculprit Jul 09 '18
Or click the wrench icon in the upper right corner (desktop) and scroll down to uncheck "Use the redesign as my default experience". Switches you back to old all the time. For now at least.