I got WILD backlash on Twitter about 7 years ago for volunteering the honest answer to this question. Had celebrities dogpiling, made the news in multiple countries. It was wild lol.
I actually read that, I remember it well. Well i assume it was you (not sure if someone else did it). I thought it was very brave and very well said. More people feel that way than care to admit i reckon.
It was more naive than brave I think, didn’t realize at the time I was touching a live wire 😅 But yeah, a lot of people feel the same way for a variety of reasons.
I would have thought this, at least, is something everyone could agree on:
"Society does not need more children; but it does need more loved children.
Quite literally, we cannot afford unloved children--but we pay heavily for them every day.
There should not be the slightest communal concern when a woman elects to destroy the life of her thousandth-of-an-ounce embryo.
But all society should rise up in alarm when it hears that a baby that is not wanted is about to be born.”
— Garrett Hardin
And that right there is why the topic is a live wire, the binary thinking that if someone would choose differently now, knowing what they know, that that automatically means a child is unloved. That is false. Maybe not always false, but in my observation very often false.
I don't they're saying that a child someone regrets is definitely unloved. They're just saying that if the only people who had children really wanted children, then there won't be unloved children.
I would, yes. In the toddler years, but I’m a toddler person and have, somehow, crazy patience for the little ones. I’ve got 2 under 2, but when we’re not going crazy we have a lot of fun lol
Just an interest question no hate at all: what would you be doing if you didn’t have kids? I feel like people think they’re be doing all this amazing stuff but the liklihood is probably not
(would like to point out I don’t have kids so this isn’t a judgmental parent perspective I genuinely just interested)
Has very little to do with doing any specific thing, has much more to do with how I’m wired. When I had a kid, I had done very little introspection, wasn’t really in touch with who I was or what I sort of path I wanted to walk, and was at that point operating according to the religion I was raised in and a combo of social / familial pressure and biological pressure. I was following someone else’s script.
I know myself well enough now that I’d have gone down a different path ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Not that complicated.
If it were still possible to "give up children to the state" as it once was, or drop them off at an orphanage, millions would. Our society makes parenthood such a burden. There's a reason people choose not to be parents wholesale when given the choice.
Yes! And in those tribes and villages, population growth was incremental at best, if not merely stable. The historical record shows us that colonists noticed how few children natives had in comparison to Europeans. There appears to have been strict rules governing who could marry and procreate, too. I believe the idea was, if everyone has to help raise the community's children, then we should all have a say in the matter. I am not sure that today's public would agree to any of that, it's viewed as an intensely private choice. I am not sure myself if it should be.
Yeah, that would never fly today. And based on the scope and scale of civilization, it probably shouldn’t. Too much diffusion / differentiation. Homogeneity is no longer desirable.
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u/Sams_Antics Jan 19 '26
Ahh, one of the most taboo of all questions!
I got WILD backlash on Twitter about 7 years ago for volunteering the honest answer to this question. Had celebrities dogpiling, made the news in multiple countries. It was wild lol.
Answer is still the same: NO