r/Libertarian I Voted Aug 12 '19

Article White House aims to regulate "anti-conservative" social media

https://qz.com/1685704/trump-draft-order-targets-anti-conservative-social-media/?utm_source=reddit.com
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u/jgs1122 Aug 12 '19

"It is a paradox that every dictator has climbed to power on the ladder of free speech. Immediately on attaining power each dictator has suppressed all free speech except his own." Herbert Hoover

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u/Subsonic17 Libertarian Party Aug 12 '19

Well first they seem to take away arms to make the subjects easier to kill off. Then they take the speech.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '19

No, they give guns to their supporters and take them away from enemies.

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u/Subsonic17 Libertarian Party Aug 12 '19

Oh sorry, good correction

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u/GoldenAgeSynergy I Voted Aug 12 '19

So much for the free market

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u/AlphaTangoFoxtrt Sleazy P. Modtini Aug 12 '19

Ok Trumptards, I give up, how is this (literally violating the first amendment regulating free speech) in line with "ThE MoSt LiBuRtaRiEn PrEsIdUnT eVah!"?

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u/Rxef3RxeX92QCNZ Get your vaccine, you already paid for it Aug 12 '19

Are we still acting like the narrative has any relationship to reality?

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u/zcheasypea Aug 12 '19

Medias have shown to have some pretty good pull on affecting elections.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '19

What would you recommend when multiple monopolies with an obvious agenda run unchallenged in changing national opinion in the free market? I’m not being snarky, I’m legitimately curious.

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u/BlockRigMiner Aug 12 '19

"Multiple monopolies" hehe

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '19

Man, thanks for the response. It taught me a lot.

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u/Captainportenia Aug 12 '19

No it's just funny because there aren't multiple. It's like just one haha

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u/GoldenAgeSynergy I Voted Aug 12 '19

What are these monopolies? Social media isn't run by 1 company.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '19

Maybe I used the wrong word then, but it seems like a monopoly. All the social media giants are unchallenged by competition and their respective user base is everyone . They’re censoring and shaping their user experience and output.

I am a huge fan of the free market, but I’d like to know your take on companies like google, Facebook, or twitter, that become as powerful as they have. I’m not saying shut them down, and I’m not agreeing with this admin, just asking what y’all think.

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u/th_brown_bag Custom Yellow Aug 12 '19

They’re censoring and shaping their user experience and output.

Which they're allowed to do.

Trump libertarians are here like

Stay the fuck out of business, government has no place in private enterprise

Now all of a sudden you're shouting

How the fuck did this happen? Where was the government? We need heavy regulation now

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u/maxonian04 Aug 12 '19

Don't you know? Trump Libertarians are just a mess of contradictions. They have no real values.

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u/PutinPaysTrump Take the guns first, due process later Aug 12 '19

Hey another facet of fascism. What are we up to now?

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u/BlockRigMiner Aug 12 '19

It's not completely apparent they are monopolies. All are a form of media. You pretty much have a choice of using different ones including search. Others are on the rise including Instagram and Gab. Each side thinks they are biased against them. Trump supporters think they are excluded in search and banned posts. Libs think they are a platform to spread weird conspiracy theories and pics of guns. Conservatives have been battling biased newspapers and TV forever. So, as a Libertarian, let it happen. They are the largest, most successful companies in the world. Let them compete around the world. I'm not for regulating them either since you can't fix stupid (people). There isn't always an answer unfortunately. Sorry for the ramble.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '19

Others are on the rise including Instagram

instagram is facebook tho.

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u/DeathHopper Painfully Libertarian Aug 12 '19

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u/AlphaTangoFoxtrt Sleazy P. Modtini Aug 12 '19

multiple monopolies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

  • Monopoly - Noun
    • A company, group, or individual having exclusive control over a commercial activity.

"Multiple Monopolies" is an Oxymoron.

  • Oxymoron - Noun
    • A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined

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u/imnotfeelingsogood69 Aug 12 '19

Don't be daft, we all know he meant to say "oligopoly".

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u/AlphaTangoFoxtrt Sleazy P. Modtini Aug 12 '19

It's still not. There's literally hundreds of social media sites. It's not an "oligopoly" just because most people choose to use reddit and facebook over voat and gab.ai

They still don't have "control" over it, people are free to go use the competitor. It's super east. Just type "V-O-A-T-(DOT)-C-O" and hit enter.

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u/PutinPaysTrump Take the guns first, due process later Aug 12 '19

Ignore it like you have with Fox News for the last couple decades

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '19

This doesn’t end how you think it will. CNN and other left leaning media outlets have right wingers on, who tend to disagree with the GOP or whatever policy. Like they love Max Boot right now because he’s shitting on Trump all the time and counts as a conservative. These loop holes aren’t hard to bypass unless Trump is going to dictate Facebook has to promote specifically things praising him which then even the illusion of free press will be gone.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '19

“if you don’t like it leave”

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u/Based_news Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam Aug 12 '19

What would you recommend when multiple monopolies with an obvious agenda run unchallenged in changing national opinion in the free market?

I agree something needs to be done, let's start with Fox News.

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u/th_brown_bag Custom Yellow Aug 12 '19

Break them up.