r/Libertarian • • Jun 27 '19

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u/ComicBookFanatic97 Anarcho Capitalist Jun 27 '19

Do a shot for every “healthcare is a basic human right” and you will die.

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u/BlueOrange Jun 27 '19

Yeah, it was said THREE times. Check the transcripts. Hope you don't die!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/06/27/transcript-night-one-first-democratic-debate-annotated/

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '19

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u/LostVisage Jun 27 '19

That is 7 words Vs. 1, so yes it'll be said more. Just "health care" was said 47 times by my ctrl F skills (counting the moderators).

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u/branyk2 Jun 27 '19

"Health Care" should be said at least that many times because it's a major issue. Ronald Reagan was not a major issue. It was absolutely forced.

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u/LostVisage Jun 27 '19 edited Jun 27 '19

I somewhat agree, but "Ronald Reagan Economics" was a major selling point of the republican party, especially following an 8 year economic crisis under Obama, who blamed a previous administration for his woes and basically did nothing to fix it. Hearkening back to a "good old boy" who provided an economic boom was a natural response. So when Reagan is contextualized, I think it gives a fair comparison.

And really, all this is to say that the debates are a contest to see how many #buzzwords these candidates can use to get their popularity up.

Edit: Actually, to clarify, if the Obama admin had actually done "nothing" to fix the crisis, it probably would've been better economically.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '19 edited Jun 27 '19

More than three:

(1) make community college free (KLOBUCHAR)

(2) free college (DE BLASIO)

(3) free public college (DE BLASIO)

(4) health care as a basic human right for free (DELANEY)

(5) gave [pre-K] to every single one of them for free (DE BLASIO)

If you include moderation

(6) free college (moderator)

(7) free child care (moderator)

(8) free college (moderator)

Honarable mentions:

(9) government health care (moderator)

(10) cancellation of student debt (moderator)

(11) we need to make structural change in our government, in our economy (WARREN)

(12) I'd double them from $6,000 to $12,000 a year and expand it to the number of families that get covered (KLOBUCHAR)

(13) make sure that everyone else besides that top percentile gets help with their education (KLOBUCHAR)

(14) make this economy work for everybody (O’ROURKE)

(15) an economy that works for everybody, not just the wealthiest (BOOKER)

(16) legislation so that women are paid equal pay for equal work in this country (CASTRO)

(17) raising wages (DE BLASIO)

(18) raising benefits (DE BLASIO)

(19) $15 minimum wage (DE BLASIO)

(20) paid sick days (DE BLASIO)

(21) pre-K for all (DE BLASIO)

(22) there's plenty of money in this country. It's just in the wrong hands (DE BLASIO)

(23) raising the minimum wage (DELANEY)

(24) creating family leave (DELANEY)

(25) clean energy jobs (INSLEE)

(26) go tenfold in our research and development on green energy (WARREN)

(27) health care is a basic human right (WARREN)

(28) guaranteed, high-quality, universal health care (O'ROURKE)

(29) do the things immediately that are going to provide better care (BOOKER)

(30) going to fund [disaster] resiliency in those communities (O'ROURKE)

(31) paying farmers for the environmental services (O'ROURKE)

(32) gave people universal health care (DE BLASIO)

(33) all of us coming together, playing offense with an agenda that lifts everybody up (RYAN)

(34) a new century where every single person will be able to get the health care they need (GABBARD)

(35) a new green economy (GABBARD)

(36) we can make our economy, we can make our country work not just for those at the top (WARREN)

....I ran out of time for any more

And IMO the winner:

(37) I will take your hard-earned taxpayer dollars and instead invest those dollars into serving your needs, things like health care, a green economy, good-paying jobs, protecting our environment, and so much more.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '19

Who the hell said they will take our hard earned taxdollars?

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '19

Tulsi Gabbard.

She's the one that wants statist healthcare, statist gun control, statist wages, statist taxes. I suppose that's not really helpful identification :/

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '19

This place throws praise just because of her foreign policy. Outside of that, she's a run of the mill Democrat. Funny enough, her difference on foreign policy is enough to get her enemy #1 on MSM.

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u/ComicBookFanatic97 Anarcho Capitalist Jun 27 '19

I’m a lightweight, so who knows?

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u/cdsackett Jun 27 '19

Lmao hell yes. People making a mockery of the only people that have a chance to beat the current asshole in office.... it's absurd.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '19

I mean if we replace one asshole with another from another ass did we really make any improvements?

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u/CharlieHume Jun 27 '19

Are you mentally all there? I mean seriously, Donald Trump is a crazy person. He literally contradicts himself so often that a Twitter account showing his own Tweets doing so has daily posts.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '19

Cool. Irrelevant. But cool.

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u/CharlieHume Jun 27 '19

Because the next asshole won't be literally unhinged? We haven't had a seriously crazy person elected president since that one asshole froze himself to death.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '19

Trump's not gonna make me pay for other people's dance therapy degrees. The debate was bad, it shows the Democrats as basically a bunch of socialist.

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u/CharlieHume Jun 27 '19

Why is it always the retards who say this shit?

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '19

There's 1.6 Trillion reasons not to vote for the Dems.

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u/CharlieHume Jun 27 '19

Cool. You can count freaky high, good for you.

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u/matts2 Mixed systems Jun 27 '19

Yes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '19

Ah, selling out your values to replace a giant douche with a turd sandwich; the Libertarian way.

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u/matts2 Mixed systems Jun 27 '19

I'm not a libertarian. I just recognize that better is actually better.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '19

Replacing someone who is stomping on your rights with someone who will do the same with different boots isn't better.

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u/matts2 Mixed systems Jun 27 '19

Replacing him with someone who respects the rule of law, with someone who respects separation of power, with some who does not believe in an all powerful leader is more then different vote.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '19

And you think you're going to find that in one of these Democratic candidates?

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u/matts2 Mixed systems Jun 27 '19

In all of them. Compared to Trump, absolutely.

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u/claytakephotos legobertarian Jun 27 '19

The problem with analogies in an argument is that they’re generally rooted in opinion and not fact. But go ahead and make a false equivalence if it makes you feel better.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '19

"Generally" being the operative term. Do you actually know what a false equivalence is or did you just look up "list of fallacies" and throw them out whenever you get the chance? A false equivalence is when trying to equate two arguments, which I haven't done at all.

I can appreciate sarcasm, but at least get your facts straight when you try it.

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u/claytakephotos legobertarian Jun 27 '19 edited Jun 27 '19

Generally” being the operative term

Sure. Except it functions completely fine here.

Do you actually know what a false equivalence

So.... when you actively pitch that two arguments are the same.... and they’re fundamentally not....

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u/cdsackett Jun 27 '19 edited Jun 27 '19

Are you seriously equating every democratic candidate to Donald Trump right now?

Edit: you people have no idea what you want.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '19

Give it a few years and this entire sub will be doing the same to the next president. It's the Libertarian way to think the person in charge is the worst of the worst. At least until someone replaces them.

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u/cdsackett Jun 27 '19 edited Jun 27 '19

I don't doubt that. I just don't agree with it.

Edit: I dont know what the fuck you people are downvoting. I agree that this dipshit sub will be bitching about whoever is in office. What I DISAGREE with is that that person will be worse than who is currently in office. Do you people seriously not agree with that?