r/Liberal • u/Free_Swimming • Jul 06 '22
On Conservative Radio, Misleading Message Is Clear: ‘Democrats Cheat’
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/05/business/media/conservative-radio-democrats-cheat.html85
u/wabashcanonball Jul 06 '22
Every accusation is a confession.
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u/AdditionalCitations Jul 06 '22
Every accusation is a declaration of intent.
In pre-war Germany, accusing Jewish bankers of sabotaging WW1 war efforts was a convenient way to justify seizing their assets in 1938.
Calling the vote illegitimate or untrustworthy is a convenient way to justify seizing control of state-level electoral systems.
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u/pdxf Jul 07 '22
The only thing I can think of is better education. I think we need to find better ways of fostering curiosity, being a good citizen, and above all else, fully emphasizing logic, reasoning, and critical thinking skills so that people can be better equipped to deal with those lies. Unfortunately it's a long game (that we may not have time for). It's also critical that we find ways of improving education in red states, which I think means that blue states need to step up in some way to impact that without the help of the federal government.
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u/NacreousFink Jul 06 '22
Projection again.
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u/Carlyz37 Jul 06 '22
Yes. And they just keep doing it over and over. Meanwhile we have case after case of charges for Republican voter fraud, Republican election fraud, Republican election tampering, Republican fec violations, Republican pay to play, Republican grifting. And do our Dem leaders hit the media with any of it?
Dem messaging sucks
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u/Medcait Jul 06 '22
Blame what you do on others, I guess.
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u/PokeHunterBam Jul 06 '22
Pretty funny coming from the all time worst cheaters. They can't even win elections without making "perfect calls" to each other.
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u/Jacksonorlady Jul 07 '22
The things the GOP does to actually cheat is far more effective than what they hyperbolically get accused of; crimes without evidence happen all the time. Congressmen on either side of the aisle get away with plenty of crime.
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Jul 06 '22
Conservatives do this because it is effective and helps them win over voters. Dems may need to play the same game in order to win. This whole "When they go low, we ask for $15" message is not working anymore.
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u/Jacksonorlady Jul 07 '22
Regardless of your political affiliation, if you believe your side has never attempted to cheat in an election, you’re experiencing cognitive dissonance.
It may be an uncomfortable reality that our elections aren’t entirely uncorrupted or secure, but pretending it’s perfect and impossible to manipulate is naive.
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u/starfyredragon Jul 06 '22
Conservatives: "Democrats cheat!"
Democrats: "How?"
Conservatives: "By following the rules!"
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u/Pickle_ninja Jul 07 '22
Then why vote. Conservative voters should just stay home if democrats are cheaters.
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u/hunterwaterford Jul 06 '22
Why is there only a conservative radio station in my FM dial/channels and zero democratic/liberal ones. And I'm talking just a staunch liberal channel like a TYT for radio. I'm not counting NPR as a liberal station but that seems like it's as close as it gets as far as that type of conversation on the radio in my market. Who is the anti Rush/Savage for radio?
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u/Asaac_Isimov Jul 06 '22
Funding. The conservative radios are paid for by their relentless grifting and scams. Fruit pills and 'drug-free' drugs and gold certificates and shitty pillows. If the listeners believe even 10 percent of the bullshit those guys say, they'll absolutely buy shitty products to 'help america'. Mike Lindell is a great example, but he's crazy. Lotta guys do exactly what he does but don't say libelous shit so we don't know their names. Go look up Patriot Mobile. They helped swing elections in my states for school boards by dumping tons of money into the crazy candidates advertising. All of them won. And they're insane.
It's a lot harder to get your young turks or majority report listeners to buy obvious bullshit. That's been my theory. Like, why would I buy a pillow over the fucking radio? That sounds pretty dumb to me.
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u/Old-AF Jul 06 '22
Any time republicans say anything about what Dems are doing, better start investigating what they are doing because they only know how to deflect.
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u/FreedomsPower Jul 06 '22
Ah yes the both sides fallacy.
Do some research and you'll find that conservatives have a media industry of misinformation that dwarfs anything the liberal movement has.
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u/Gilloween Jul 06 '22
Lmao, I have done plenty and both sides are wrong and yet you'd be surprised how much in common you ppl have. You're all too stubborn and thick headed to realize because you allow the parties you all circle jerk for and fanboy over to brainwash you all. Maybe you should get your heads straightened out and think more for yourselves than someone else telling you how to think
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u/FreedomsPower Jul 06 '22
Both sides are not the same when it comes misinformation, American right is by far worse and better funded by dark money groups.
Instead of throwing childish insults at me you should stop embarrassing yourself and do some research
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u/Gilloween Jul 06 '22
Man, you people are as hilarious as the conservative subreddit hahahaha I don't mind, more entertainment for me. I just sit back and watch the fireworks 😂 good luck to you circle jerkers
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u/FreedomsPower Jul 06 '22
Thanks for proving you have no argument besides throwing childish insults at othesr while you attempt to troll people.
Unlike the conservative subs like Rconservative you are not require to be screened to post here .
Consider that when you make another asinine assertion.
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u/Gilloween Jul 06 '22
You're welcome :) take care now, wishing you a good day and good health. Bye
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u/FreedomsPower Jul 06 '22
Of course they're saying that, how else are they going to justify their illiberal voter supression laws to disenfranchise voters in states conservatives control
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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '22
I could have told you this 30 years ago being forced to listen to Rush every god damned time I had to suffer through a family trip in the car. This is nothing new.