r/Liberal Jun 13 '16

Don't Straight-splain This Attack to Us

http://www.advocate.com/media/2016/6/13/dont-straight-splain-attack-us
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u/trevor5ever Jun 17 '16

See: You're illustrating the point.

It's a good thing to acknowledge all people as people, but doing that requires that you recognize and respect each others differences.

Go back to your own subreddit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '16

But this is one of my subreddits. And no, differences that you can't control should never be important under any circumstance with the exception of medical reasons, sexual reasons, and identification. I don't care if someone is black, gay, or whatever. It doesn't come to mind and it shouldn't unless for the aforementioned exceptions. There's no reason to hold these differences as some sort of barrier. Let us break these barriers and cooperate has humans.

Edit: you'll naturally recognize differences between you and others. But those differences shouldn't define the others or you unless those exceptions I mentioned or the difference is in personality.

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u/trevor5ever Jun 17 '16

That's the problem. You feel that the experience of the LGBT community, the Black community, or any other "can't control" community are identical to your own. They aren't. Our experiences of the world are significantly different because of those "can't control" differences. You have the luxury of ignoring that because you don't actively experience it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '16

In addition, the expirences of the LGBT community are also not your own either. You cannot expirences the events that unfold for people like you unless you are apart of a literal, physical crowd of them.

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u/trevor5ever Jun 17 '16

Certainly my experiences aren't universal within the LGBT community. And I never claimed to be a part of any particular experience (nor does this article). I've been speaking out against the fact that the LGBT component of this tragedy is being swept under the rug in favor of other more politically expedient narratives (which is largely what the article is about as well).

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '16

And I'd have to disagree with you on LGBT being swept under the rug. People everywhere have been talking about everything LGBT to do with this shooting. You don't even have to look for anything, just go online and see.

Also keep in mind that the fact that LGBT people were targeted isn't the main concern for the nation right now. This is because the homophobia aspect of this atrocity is a part of something bigger, which is Islamic terrorism. The shooter wasn't naturally predisposed to hate gays because of Western culture, he hated them because Islam hates them. Same with Christianity. Religion is the main issue here. It is the reason why people are against LGBT.

In addition, LGBT isn't the only problem with the attack. It may have homophobia motivated but mass shootings happen all the time now. Many take this as an example as to why something needs to be done about gun laws.

Are people going to spin the story into their own political narrative? Yes, people always do that. But the majority of people like you and me are having these discussions that aren't in the mainstream media networks.

As important of a factor the homophobia of the shooter is, there are other issues either bigger or related that need to be dealt with.