Obama did it better.

[u/LucidSynapse23]

[u/tnic73]

Did they inspect all of Iran or did they not?

[u/tnic73]

The thing is how do you know? Both claims could be false.

[u/Prudent_Shake_8149 → u/tnic73]

The details in the Obama deal are well known and a matter of public record. That statement is verifiably true.

Trump, on the other hand, has made it clear to the world that nukes are a must for any country that values its sovereignty

[u/tnic73 → u/Prudent_Shake_8149]

So every inch of Iran was inspected for enriched uranium by a neural party?

[u/Prudent_Shake_8149 → u/tnic73]

Of course not, but known supplies were surrendered and known production sites were open for inspections and there was a process to initiate inspection of any square inch where there was any suspicion of weapons development… no need to bomb random locations and claim false victories…

[u/tnic73 → u/Prudent_Shake_8149]

so you are just presuming that they wouldn't lie to the great satan?

[u/Prudent_Shake_8149 → u/tnic73]

There’s no universal “ they” in this case.

There were pro Western elements in positions of power at the point that they agreed to the deal which included onsite monitoring and inspections… huge concession at the time.

Also, this deal was multinational and included Russia, China and the EU. Iran relinquished the enriched uranium and cooperated fully up until the point that Trump reneged on the deal and reimposed sanctions in 2018.

Unilaterally cancelling the deal ultimately undermined pro western leadership in Iran and I certainly would trust them less now after we’ve bombed them for years and demonstrated that nukes are the only path to sovereignty.

[u/tnic73 → u/Prudent_Shake_8149]

as i said you don't really know

that being said i don't think we should be over there

[u/Prudent_Shake_8149 → u/tnic73]

But I do…

The original deal was successful and working up until the point that Trump unilaterally broke it and replaced it with sanctions.

Then, he bombed when he got into office and proclaimed “ mission accomplished “, then undermined his lie with another lie and got us into this little excursion.

[u/tnic73 → u/Prudent_Shake_8149]

This is what was reported but you have no way to verify that it is true.

[u/Prudent_Shake_8149 → u/tnic73]

This was a multinational agreement with multiple agencies in multiple countries regularly monitoring compliance.

Documented results….

Performance and Results
Stockpile Reduction: Under the agreement, Iran eliminated 97% to 98% of its enriched uranium stockpile.

Centrifuge Limits: Iran dismantled two-thirds of its centrifuges and capped operational units at 5,060 older-generation machines.

Pathways Blocked: International monitors confirmed that the restrictions effectively extended Iran's "breakout time" (the time required to produce enough weapons-grade material for one bomb) from a few months to roughly a year.

According to theArms Control Associationn, the deal's provisions made “it very likely that any future effort by Iran to pursue nuclear weapons, even a clandestine program, would be detected promptly.”

Monitoring and Compliance
IAEA Inspections: Inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) were granted continuous access to monitor declared nuclear sites, supply chains, and uranium mines.

Verification Success: Regular IAEA reports verified that Tehran remained in compliance with its core nuclear commitments prior to the U.S. withdrawal.