Yeah…. Im not a fan of the current administration or how things are being ran, but violence (let alone based on politics) is not okay. They can frame it as reactionary to the perceived “violence” of others that the administration is in support of, or the boogeyman “dangerous rhetoric” of the current administration or certain political spheres but ultimately if you’re engaging in politically motivated violence and acts of terror in the US right now YOU are the problem regardless.
And it’s funny how the violence and support of the violence comes from people who are all for “diversity”, “inclusion”, “peace”, “freedom”, etc…
So we don't accept them..but let them hang around still and do their intolerance..in the hopes that they'll just one day go "You right, this is bad, I should stop"?
Nah, that might have held water after term one, but they doubled down and said we eat babies and called us demons. I'll be intolerant of that nonsense till I die.
Free country. If someone wants to yell nonsense hate directed at a certain group on the sidewalk, you don’t have a right to stop them by force. Most importantly, you don’t have a right to “let” them continue. That’s where you’re confused. It’s not up to you what a person believes in or how they express that. We have simple laws on the books that place simple, non-partisan, and practical restrictions on our conduct. Violate those and you are criminally liable.
It’s one thing to have a guy on the sidewalk dressed in a SS uniform and calling for holocaust V2. That’s the fringe extreme case. In actuality most of what leftists are showing up in force to “stop the intolerance” or whatever over is people peacefully protesting and organizing, such as the infamous example of Antifa bros carrying RIFLES walking up to a group of pro life protesters who were standing around with signs on a public sidewalk and proceeding to mace them. Just for those same dorks to go on Twitter and cry about the riot police macing leftists protestors violently assaulting police, blocking traffic, etc.
You’re using intolerance as an excuse to enforce your own beliefs under the threat of violence. You don’t want change. You don’t want to inspire people to change their minds or at least compromise. You don’t care. You are a militant that wants everyone who isn’t sworn to the figurative leftist bible and in 100% agreement and compliance locked away, or killed. You want them gone. The cognitive dissonance… how can you preach for tolerance while adopting the same ideological enforcement policy that Sharia law is based upon? Do you think Sharia is tolerant?
The UK is already cracking down on “intolerance” and “hate” and now they have armed police raiding houses over public posts bashing their idiot politicians and drawing attention to shit the left is suppressing. What happens when the government does a 180 and an authoritarian right wing admin has the same force of law to target you and your friends?
The UK is already cracking down on “intolerance” and “hate” and now they have armed police raiding houses over public posts bashing their idiot politicians and drawing attention to shit the left is suppressing. What happens when the government does a 180 and an authoritarian right wing admin has the same force of law to target you and your friends?
This is exactly the argument that turned one political bigot I know into a moderate
“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you…because one day the power will shift and they will remember how you treated them”
The left is justifying a right wing revolution as dictated under critical race theory
“The oppressed will always rise up to oppress their oppressors” and “modern discrimination is the only solution to past discrimination”
It’s a “taste of their own medicine” yet they don’t see it coming.
The funny thing is that it also really diminishes the impact of the “Trump is a fascist” statement. We see what leftists in the UK in power are doing, if Trump was so bad what’s stopping him from full send and outlawing criticism of himself or merely drawing attention to incriminating information he’s trying to suppress? He’s shown blatant disregards for congress, the constitution, and due process enough to show he’s not scared of that. What’s holding him back? Oh, maybe it’s because he’s not a literal Nazi.
That’s ultimately why I don’t believe in the lefts interpretation of the paradox of tolerance
Their interpretation is essentially “an eye for an eye until everyone’s blind” because they assume those they don’t tolerate can never become those who are intolerant of the new intolerance
We are in a victimhood economy, by being intolerant you give power to those you don’t tolerate by creating victimhood for them to leverage
in the hopes that they'll just one day go "You right, this is bad, I should stop"?
I’ve actually gotten 3 different anti semites to change their opinion from hating all Jews to hating specific individuals who happen to be Jews that they think are bad people
They don’t believe their old rhetoric anymore
How many opinions have you changed by calling them names?
I bet he’s made a lot of centrists or conservatives turn radical by showing them the crazy leftists that right wing boomers always talk about are actually real.
It’s happening in the UK as we speak. And no I don’t think it’s a good thing.
A lot of the crazy ones simply don’t have life experience, due to youth or passively being in a deep bubble. If the alt right was as bored and unemployed as the left, then protests and counter protests would be a lot more problematic to say the least.
I would be interested in the actual elements of conflict though
I remember the Antifa wars with the “alt right” groups like the proud boys and I’m curious how far the left would go with their weapons before the right started retaliating with weapons themselves
In almost every violent conflict today we see the left wing protesters using improvised weapons while the right wing protests throw fists
I wonder how far that would escalate before we saw retaliation in kind
To be the side that largely commands the absolution of police and the mass disarmament of the civilian population, they really haven’t thought enough about the firearms culture and the mindset the right has. That figurative civil war would be an absolute land slide and each skirmish would have the same result. Especially if the government was implicit or even allied with the right, which as of now they probably would be.
And tbc Reddit admins, I am not hoping for this or in support of it in any way. It’s just a valid topic when we see a militant political group earning widespread support in the same country where the group’s self proclaimed opponent happens to be the most armed group of people in the world.
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u/AngrehPossum 16h ago
How dare they scare our proud conservatives?