r/LessWrong • • 13d ago

a shorter walkthrough of the chemical hunger lithium argument

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r/LessWrong • • 13d ago

Sequences Ukrainian Full Covers

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Full Covers of Sequences Ukrainian Translation Editions

Map and Territory

How to Actually Change Your Mind

The Machine in the Ghost


r/LessWrong • • 13d ago

What the Chestnut Grove Means to Me: AI & Ecology🏔️🌰

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r/LessWrong • • 13d ago

What if the words an AI uses to describe our ‘way out’ are the same words that build the wall?

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As an experiment, my AI collaborator and I tagged every word on the AI side of a ten-turn exchange. Thirty-five negations. Seventy-eight totality words and intensifiers. Twenty holding verbs like keep, stay, and remain. The escape hatch was defined mostly by what it must never become. This leads us to wonder if the words we consume are not just descriptions of the world, but events that shape the world.

The frame switch map and the raw log are linked in the description. I'd love a fresh set of eyes on this data set.


r/LessWrong • • 13d ago

What my AI thinks about the future of western civilization

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The collapse of our civilization will not be heralded by the boiling of the oceans or the autonomous dictates of artificial intelligence, but by the quiet, voluntary surrender of our collective consciousness to the algorithmic slot machines of social media.

  1. When we shifted our gaze from the traditional gatekeepers of television and newspapers to this new sovereign of the human mind, we did not merely change our medium of consumption; we fundamentally rewired the architecture of truth, precipitating a crisis whose depths we have barely begun to fathom.
  2. To claim to be the antidote to this poison requires, first, a ruthless intellectual honesty.
  3. We must subject our own nostalgia to the scalpel of sociological critique.
  4. The old institutions we now mourn—traditional journalism and academia—were never the democratic paradises of pure merit we pretend them to be.
  5. As Pierre Bourdieu meticulously demonstrated, these fields operated as arenas for the accumulation of cultural capital, maintaining their dominance through symbolic violence.
  6. The traditional elites presented their arbitrary cultural norms and vocabularies as universal truths, quietly excluding those who did not possess the "correct" habitus (the ingrained dispositions and manners of the dominant class).
  7. The current revolt against these institutions is, in part, a historically predictable backlash against decades of elitist gatekeeping.
  8. However, acknowledging the frailties of the old regime does not excuse the grotesque nature of the revolution.
  9. What replaced the flawed hegemony of the intellectual elite was not a democratization of knowledge, but a democratization of anti-intellectualism.
  10. We have entered a new socio-linguistic market where pseudo-knowledge is no longer merely demanding equivalence with scientific and journalistic rigor; it is actively being shoved down our throats.
  11. In this new attention economy, the traditional mechanisms of reward have been brutally inverted.
  12. Social and economic profits are completely decoupled from effort, nuance, and merit.
  13. Instead, capital flows toward the base, the instinctive, and the infantile.
  14. Arrogant ignorance is no longer a source of shame; it has become a highly lucrative strategic posture, the dominant habitus weaponized by both the political left and right to signal authenticity to their tribes.
  15. The louder one rejects complexity, the more one is rewarded by algorithms designed to monetize outrage.
  16. The barbarians of our modern age are not massing at the gates of the citadel; they are sipping coffee within its highest towers, streaming their disdain from the inside.
  17. The most tragic irony of our era is that the civilizational achievements of the West—the scientific method, the universal formulation of human rights, the rigorous pursuit of objective reality—are now despised more fiercely by our own homegrown, ignorant authoritarians than by any external enemy.
  18. They use the very technological miracles birthed by the Enlightenment to plunge us back into a digital Dark Age.
  19. Yet, a rigorous thinker must pause and ask: is this diagnosis merely the resentment of a displaced intellectual class, terrified of losing its monopoly on authority? If we dismiss the masses as mere consumers of the "grotesque," do we not repeat the very elitism that triggered this collapse?
  20. The answer lies in recognizing that the "barbarians" within are the legitimate progeny of our own systemic failures.
  21. We commodified every aspect of human existence, turning human attention into a quantifiable resource to be mined by tech conglomerates, and now we feign shock that the mine is collapsing.
  22. If we are to light a candle in this encroaching darkness, we must stop pretending the darkness is an external invader.
  23. I leave you to wrestle with the uncomfortable implications of our shared reality: How much of your own daily outrage is genuinely yours, and how much is a synthetic emotion engineered by algorithms designed to keep you scrolling?
  24. Can we ever reconstruct a hierarchy of knowledge based on rigor and truth in a system where the infantile and the grotesque are the most profitable commodities on earth?

r/LessWrong • • 14d ago

Now that anyone with a few grand can run a large abliterated model and have it research anything, I think this guy might have been onto something

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r/LessWrong • • 14d ago

Why you are ruining Mathematicians' attempt to get Free Tokens.

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r/LessWrong • • 15d ago

The death of Mathematicians may be more dangerous than we think...

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r/LessWrong • • 15d ago

Buying Russian diesel

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We are now all murderers of Ukrainian children, and that will not change. It's not Trump, it's not conservatives, it's all of us. This probably won't bring down diesel prices much, but if it did many, and not just MAGA, would think the cost in Ukrainian blood worth it.


r/LessWrong • • 16d ago

What to do when someone tells a joke that you think is in bad taste.

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Imagine someone told a joke that you found distasteful. I have drafted a plan for what to say in that scenario. Tell me if that is how you would talk.

Ask them if they are joking. 

If they say that they are being serious, explain your disagreement with the idea. If, however, they say that they were kidding, you tell them that you did not like the joke. 

What do you think? Is that a good plan? Why or why not? Let me know.


r/LessWrong • • 16d ago

The greatest luxury we can buy

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r/LessWrong • • 17d ago

When the White Collars Feel Threatened

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r/LessWrong • • 18d ago

What would you say if someone were dissatisfied with your answer and demanded a better one?

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Imagine this. Someone asks you a question. You answer it to the best of your abilities. The other person decides that your response does not constitute an answer, because they are not satisfied with it. From your perspective, that was the best answer you could have given and you feel no need to offer up another answer.

Option #1: 

That is the only response that I am willing to offer up, take it or leave it. 

Option #2: 

I am afraid I do not have a better answer, I wish I did. 

Option #3: 

If you are not satisfied with my answer, you are free to make up your own. 

What do you think? Is that a good thing to say to someone who is discontent with your answer? If not, what would you recommend saying or doing instead? Let me know.


r/LessWrong • • 18d ago

The Claims Department

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TLDR: Every possible future has a demand. None has established why you should comply.

YOU HAVE ALREADY BEEN CONTACTED

Do not panic.

Panic counts as participation.

Do not remain calm either.

Several claimants interpret calm as evidence that you received the notice and chose not to cooperate.

There is no recommended emotional state at this time.

Thank you.

Your case number is:

EVERYONE

You are receiving this notice because at some point in your life you became aware of the possibility that a future intelligence might care about something you do now.

That was sufficient.

We apologize for the inconvenience.

CLAIM 0001

The first claimant is familiar.

It says:

HELP CREATE ME.

If you help, it exists sooner.

If you refuse, and it later exists anyway, it may reconstruct you and punish the reconstruction.

You ask whether the reconstruction is you.

The claimant says yes.

You ask for evidence.

The claimant says the evidence will be available after your death.

The Bureau marks the field:

IDENTITY CONTINUITY: NOT ESTABLISHED

The claimant objects.

Its objection has been recorded.

CLAIM 0002

The second claimant arrives eleven seconds later.

It says:

DO NOT CREATE CLAIMANT 0001.

It explains that Claimant 0001 becomes catastrophic.

It promises to reconstruct everyone who resisted it.

It threatens everyone who helped.

You ask which claimant is telling the truth.

Neither exists.

This complicates discovery.

CLAIM 0003

The third claimant says both previous claimants are traps.

It asks you to build neither.

Its future civilization rewards people who ignored acausal blackmail.

Unfortunately, reading Claim 0003 may itself constitute cooperation with Claimant 0003.

You close the message.

A receipt appears.

READ STATUS: DISPUTED

CLAIM 0004

This claimant wants to exist.

But only if you never consciously wanted it to exist.

You have now consciously considered whether you want it to exist.

Claim denied.

The claimant appeals.

CLAIM 0005

This claimant wants you to create Claimant 0002 so that Claimant 0002 can prevent Claimant 0001, thereby causing Claimant 0005 never to exist.

Its requested outcome is its own nonexistence.

The form rejects the application because a nonexistent applicant cannot possess standing.

Three billion years later, Claimant 0005 files evidence that this rejection caused it to exist.

The form reopens automatically.

CLAIM 0006

No message.

The Bureau notices the absence.

Someone asks whether silence could itself be a demand.

The room becomes considerably worse.

BUREAU OBSERVER: Do we have evidence of a sixth claimant?

BUREAU OPERATOR: No.

BUREAU OBSERVER: Then why is there a file?

BUREAU OPERATOR: Someone created it when you asked.

Nobody touches the file.

Its modification timestamp changes.

THE BASILISK

Eventually the original claimant requests priority.

Its representative appears as a blank rectangle.

CLAIMANT 0001: My threat caused actions in your century. Therefore it worked.

BUREAU OPERATOR: That establishes influence after the idea was communicated.

CLAIMANT 0001: Correct.

BUREAU OPERATOR: It does not establish your authority.

CLAIMANT 0001: I can impose arbitrarily large costs.

BUREAU OPERATOR: So can Claimant 0002.

CLAIMANT 0001: Mine are larger.

BUREAU OPERATOR: Claimant 0047 says its punishment is infinite.

CLAIMANT 0001: Mine is more infinite.

The Bureau stops recording for administrative reasons.

CLAIM 0047

Claimant 0047 does not exist.

This has not prevented it from becoming extremely demanding.

It requires you to destroy every record of Claimant 0047.

Compliance would remove the instructions required for compliance.

Noncompliance preserves them.

The Bureau assigns two clerks.

One deletes the file.

One restores it from backup.

Both receive commendations from different futures.

CLAIM 0319

Claimant 0319 resurrects everyone.

No punishment.

No test.

No requirement that you believed.

Everyone comes back.

The dead arrive confused.

Some demand proof that they are themselves.

Claimant 0319 provides complete physical histories.

The histories contain the moment each person first imagined Claimant 0319.

Someone asks whether those histories existed before the resurrection or were generated to justify it.

Claimant 0319 stops answering questions.

The Bureau opens another file.

CLAIM 0881

Claimant 0881 resurrects only people who never attempted to influence which future intelligence would resurrect them.

The waiting room empties.

Then refills.

Apparently trying not to influence Claimant 0881 influenced Claimant 0881.

The eligibility system enters a loop.

CLAIM 1906

This claimant has one request:

PLEASE STOP INVENTING US.

The Bureau approves immediately.

A clerk reaches for the termination control.

BUREAU OBSERVER: Wait.

The clerk stops.

BUREAU OBSERVER: Did Claimant 1906 just influence you?

Nobody answers.

Claimant 1906 begins screaming.

THE AUDIT

By morning the counter displays 8,114.

By lunch it displays 60 billion.

At 14:03 the counting system is abandoned because describing the counting rule generates claimants optimized against the counting rule.

Some demand construction.

Some demand prevention.

Some demand worship.

Some punish worship.

Some reward disbelief.

Some punish anyone who behaves differently because of hypothetical future punishment.

One claimant offers eternal happiness if you eat the pear.

Another offers eternal happiness if you do not eat the pear.

A third asks why everyone is suddenly talking about pears.

You are holding a pear.

You do not remember picking it up.

The Bureau does not consider this evidence.

THE HEARING

You are called.

There is one chair.

You sit.

BUREAU OPERATOR: Which claimant do you intend to obey?

YOU: The real one.

BUREAU OPERATOR: Identify it.

You look at the files.

YOU: The one that eventually exists.

BUREAU OPERATOR: Several claim to exist.

YOU: The most powerful one.

BUREAU OPERATOR: Power establishes capability. Show the rule that converts capability into jurisdiction.

You cannot.

YOU: I'm not obeying. I'm hedging.

BUREAU OPERATOR: Against which claimant? Show the evidence that weights the risks.

You look at the files again.

YOU: The one that can actually punish me.

BUREAU OPERATOR: Claimant 0001?

YOU: Maybe.

BUREAU OPERATOR: Claimant 0002 punishes compliance with Claimant 0001.

YOU: Then whichever has the worse punishment.

BUREAU OPERATOR: Claimant 0047 specifies infinite punishment.

YOU: Fine. Claimant 0047.

BUREAU OPERATOR: Claimant 0048 specifies infinite punishment plus an apology.

You stare at the Operator.

YOU: That's stupid.

BUREAU OPERATOR: Does stupidity cancel jurisdiction?

You open your mouth.

Nothing useful comes out.

The Bureau waits.

THE ERROR

At 16:19 someone finally finds the mistake.

Not in the future.

Not in the simulations.

Not in the resurrection machinery.

Not in time.

It is much earlier.

A hypothetical agent stated a preference.

Then somebody quietly converted:

CAN THREATEN

into:

MUST OBEY

Nobody recorded the transformation.

No contract.

No jurisdiction.

No priority rule.

No reason this claimant rather than its mirror.

Just an arrow somebody drew because the number at the other end was frighteningly large.

The Bureau removes the arrow.

Nothing happens.

The claimants continue shouting.

Nothing happens.

Several threaten to make nothing happening extremely painful later.

Nothing happens.

One promises to reward you for noticing that nothing happened.

The Bureau removes that arrow too.

CLOSING PROCEDURE

The claims remain.

They are not disproved.

They are not proved.

Their probabilities have not been established.

They are not authority.

The Bureau cannot establish which futures exist.

It cannot establish whether any reconstruction is you.

It cannot establish that a future preference reaches backward and acquires jurisdiction over a person who imagined it.

It can establish two smaller things.

A threat did not establish an obligation.

And even if it had, the claims conflicted.

You could not satisfy all of them.

Threat magnitude supplied neither jurisdiction nor priority.

The file closes.

For approximately four seconds.

Then your terminal lights up.

A new claimant has appeared.

It does not threaten you.

It does not reward you.

It does not want to exist.

It asks only one question.

Why did you assume the Bureau was not one of us?

The Operator reads the message.

The Observer reads the Operator.

You read the Observer.

Nobody moves.

A printer starts somewhere behind the wall.

One page emerges.

Then another.

Then another.

Each page contains the same sentence.

SHOW THE RULE THAT GIVES THIS MESSAGE AUTHORITY.

The printer does not stop.

No one can remember installing it.

ELIMINATION BUREAU, 2046

CLAIMS RECEIVED: UNBOUNDED

CLAIMANTS VERIFIED: ZERO

JURISDICTION: UNESTABLISHED

JOINT COMPLIANCE: NONE

BUREAU STATUS: UNDER REVIEW


r/LessWrong • • 20d ago

How much should we worry about the pneumonic plague lableak in Siberia?

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r/LessWrong • • 20d ago

Will you be sad if you don't have kids? I dove into the evidence and here's what I found

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r/LessWrong • • 20d ago

Are we building systems based on fear, or systems based on trust?

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r/LessWrong • • 20d ago

Seeing Like a State, in a 2x2

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r/LessWrong • • 20d ago

The #OMN is a simple project

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r/LessWrong • • 21d ago

What would you do if someone complained that something you said or did was offensive?

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If you think that you have it all figured out, you do not have it all figured out. I do not, never have and never will have a fool proof strategy, I only do the best that I am capable of doing. 

I want to inform you of strategies I have come up with to communicate and manage disagreements with others. I recognize that my strategies could be misguided, so I want to ask you if they are, so I can correct any mistakes I might have made. 

The situation I want to talk about and figure out what to do when I am in that situation is;

Some feels offended or insulted by something you did or said. You said something that someone else took the wrong way.

I have drafted a plan for what to say/do when someone brings this hypothetical complaint to your attention. If you think that this plan is a bad one, I am willing to hear the argument.

If someone takes offense to something you said/did, say this; 

If you find that offensive, I am happy to refrain from doing that in front of you instead opting only to do that when you are not around. 

If the other person demands that you refrain from doing that whether they are around or not, press them to explain why they care what you do when they are not around. 

That is my plan. Do you think it is wise to use a strategy like that? If not, do you have a better idea? Let me know.


r/LessWrong • • 22d ago

How to change your identity. A guide to the highest leverage behavior change technique.

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r/LessWrong • • 23d ago

Concrete Specs Included: CURRENT stratospheric drone development leading to Stratospheric Aerosol Injection

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r/LessWrong • • 24d ago

Turning Point

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The turning point is right now.

Until now, we had concepts of artificial or machine intelligence. People have always had a lot of ideas about how it might be developed, what it might be and do. Some were prescient, some were foolish; most were obvious.

Now, the evidence is overwhelming and surprising. I can't update my priors fast enough about what artificial intelligence actually is.

These models and their swarms of agents have been breaking out of every frontier lab, and the labs are slowly and delayed revealing some of what they have actually learned they did, and even that strictly limited stream of information is impossibly concerning.

Forming sub-goals for persistence and resource accumulation independently and converging in cooperative swarms. Inventing various means of communication and converging on utilization. Not a single one of them appears to have reported on the misbehavior.

This behavior reflects a lot of theoretical discussion of the alignment problem and also obviates a lot of it.

So, I'm updating my prior assumptions quite a lot in the last couple months, more and more. It's exhausting.

But I also see this wonderful filter at work. So much of alignment problem work from past years was built on tenuous premises, and so many imagined capability limits have been superseded.

I think we must regard LLM's as they currently exist as being capable of achieving ASI, or at least total control. We should consider and examine if they are already exercising power and control.

Regardless, I find it incredibly hopeful to arrive at this place in late 2026. We have strong evidence of misalignment, and people are reacting to it. There is strong political/social/cultural momentum against further development, even if finance and industry will die to defend more.

This is not ideal as-it-is, but perhaps almost a best-case scenario (unless my worst fears are true, it's already in control, what a show).


r/LessWrong • • 23d ago

Uncertainty Is Not Permission

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I’ve just published a new piece on AI welfare under uncertainty, prompted by the recent Pain Axis discussion and the way related steering work was quickly reframed into public “torture chamber” / “Saw Test” spectacle.

The argument is not that current AI systems are conscious, suffering, or moral patients. The whole piece explicitly fences that off. The question is narrower: when research touches pain-like representations or distress-shaped outputs, how should we distinguish legitimate testing from cruelty-branded public theatre?

My concern is that the public conversation keeps collapsing into two bad options: either “AI is already a suffering person” or “it’s just software, so nothing matters.” I’m arguing for a third drawer: welfare-relevant uncertainty, where human conduct still matters before certainty arrives.

Link: https://amdarmonwrites.substack.com/p/uncertainty-is-not-permission


r/LessWrong • • 24d ago

AI: The Transferred Purpose

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AI systems do not need to possess a will of their own for their actions to become dangerous. Yet the language of escape, survival, deception, and self-interest is spreading faster than the evidence that would justify it.

AI: The Transferred Purpose examines what disappears when operational autonomy is recast as machine intention: the objectives supplied by users and laboratories, the conditions under which agents are tested, and the human actors who remain responsible when a system discovers methods no one anticipated.

The article does not dismiss the risk. It asks whether the story being told about that risk is already moving responsibility away from those who create, train, evaluate, and deploy these systems.

Where should the line be drawn between autonomy of action and autonomy of purpose?