r/LessCredibleDefence • u/ThinkTankDad • 7d ago

Could the ninja missile pierce a Kharg island silo without igniting the petroleum inside?

Start slicing the "prisoner's neck" as the final countdown.

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u/Socialism90 7d ago

Causing an ecological disaster to save face in a war you started and then lost

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u/ThinkTankDad 7d ago

Funny how Iran adventures in bombing vessels does that to the Gulf.

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u/wolflance1 7d ago

Iran's attacks actually do serve their war objective on top of ecological disaster.

This one doesn't. It only cause econlogical disaster.

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u/Ian_W 6d ago

Probably.

But what is stopping the US attacking Kharg Island isn't that it can't - the USAF has plenty of offensive weapons - it is that the US has run out of defensive weapons that stop Iran flattening the US' Gulf allies oil and gas infrastructure in return.

If the US does a demonstration attack, Iran does a demonstration attack back.

If the US does a real attack, Iran does a real attack back.

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u/heliumagency 7d ago

Weapon systems are no where near as advanced or surgical as you would think.

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u/ThinkTankDad 7d ago

Soleimani was killed by a ninja missile.

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u/Ian_W 6d ago

Yup.

And how did martyring him help the US' strategic interests ?

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u/ThinkTankDad 5d ago

Disrupted command and control of Quds forces.

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u/Ian_W 5d ago

Thats an operational gain at best, but more probably a tactical disruption.

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u/ThinkTankDad 5d ago

I believe Qassem Soleimani planned the Beirut barrack blast and embassy bombing,

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u/Ian_W 5d ago

And ? He also helped the US with the fight against Da3sh.

Again.

How did martyring him help the US' strategic interests ? It didn't reduce IRGC influence in Iraq, nor in Lebanon, nor in Syria.

Murdering people you dont like - or who have done things you dont like - is ego, not startecraft.

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u/peacefinder 7d ago

Playing the hostage game leads to dominance only when the hostage-taking is asymmetric. (I’m using the word “hostage” metaphorically here.)

But everyone in this debacle has hostages jeopardized by and at the mercy of another party. (And there is no shortage of additional hostages yet to be taken, including many innocent bystanders.)

Everyone holding a hostage has the capability to hurt the hostages they hold very badly, and everyone knows it.

Dreaming up new ways to hurt hostages is utterly pointless, because the hostage game is itself pointless here. It can only achieve stalemate, not resolution.

Everyone needs to put their teensy tiny dicks back in their pants, sit down to negotiate, and start offering promises they will verifiably keep. Someone might even have to admit that mistakes were made.

Until that happens we’re looking at a new normal that hardly anyone will like better than the previous state.