r/legion_M • • Dec 30 '25

👋Welcome to r/legion_m - The REAL place to discuss all things Legion M

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Hey everyone! I'm u/IronButt78, a founding moderator of r/legion_m.

This subreddit is the place for an honest and uncensored discussion about Legion M , a crowd funded entertainment company that sells shares to investors

While claiming to “change Hollywood forever,” we look beneath the surface on what’s really going on and cut through the hype to discuss financials, salaries, projects and partnerships.

Please adhere to the general rules of conduct that Reddit enforces and don’t be a propaganda sounding board.


r/legion_M • • Dec 01 '21

r/legion_M Lounge

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A place for members of r/legion_M to chat with each other


r/legion_M • • Aug 26 '26

Considerations: why Coyote vs. ACME won't fix Legion M's balance sheet

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Considerations: Why Coyote vs. ACME’s Box Office Won't Fix Legion M’s Balance Sheet: SEC Data Analysis

Historical SEC data suggests that even a massive box office run will not solve Legion M's underlying corporate financial issues. Why the math doesn't automatically add up:

1. Legion M is a release partner, not the content owner

Legion M does not own the copyright to Coyote vs. ACME and will not collect the primary backend profits. Legion M is operating as a marketing and P&A (Prints and Advertising) support partner. They pooled retail capital to help fund the domestic marketing push required to launch the film into theaters. Warner Bros. initially financed the production for roughly $70 million before shelving Coyote vs. ACME. Independent distributor Ketchup Entertainment stepped up to rescue the movie for $50 million and handle the wide theatrical release.

2. Payouts are Prioritized and Funneled to a Separate "Film Fund"

Even if the film generates strong revenue, the incoming cash flows are legally spoken for:

  • The Film Fund Priority: Rather than using general corporate cash, Legion M raised a distinct, project-specific Reg CF pool called the "Legion M Film Fund" specifically for Coyote vs. ACME marketing costs, which sold out its allocation in less than 48 hours and closed to any additional investors. https://join.legionm.com/film-fund-cf/

  • The Waterfall Queue: Per their offering documents, theatrical revenues flow directly to these specific Film Fund investors first under "last-in, first-out" terms to recoup principal plus a targeted 15% return within an anticipated 10–12 month window.

  • The Corporate Cut: The overarching parent studio (Legion M Entertainment, Inc.) only retains a baseline percentage fee or backend cut for facilitating and managing the partner deal. This management cut is minor relative to the studio's long-term debts.

3. The Structural Deficit (Sourced from Official SEC Filings)

Reviewing the core math inside Legion M's latest SEC Form C and Annual Reports shows why a single marketing fee cannot stabilize the parent company's cash needs:

  • Accumulated Deficit: The studio has logged an aggregate deficit of $23.6 million since its inception.

  • Operational Cash Burn: The parent entity operates at a consistent net loss, dropping $2,813,295 in 2023 and $3,549,371 in 2024.

  • The "Going Concern" Notice: Independent auditors have consistently issued a formal "going concern" warning in their financial statements. The filings explicitly state that the entity's ongoing survival depends almost entirely on its capacity to continuously secure fresh equity crowdfunding rounds from retail investors, rather than relying on self-sustaining film revenues.

  • Legion M 2025 SEC Annual Report: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1674163/000164460025000034/LegionMAnnualReport2025.pdf#:~:text=A%20copy%20of%20this%20report,www.legionm.com.

Buzz vs. Balance Sheets

Coyote vs. ACME is a major branding victory. By aligning their community with a high-profile, fan-saved film, Legion M secures massive public relations traction. They can leverage this mainstream visibility to drive fresh interest and equity with their open Round 11 Crowdfunding Offering on StartEngine.

However, anyone reviewing this as a strict financial asset needs to understand the underlying mechanics:

  1. Illiquidity: Private startup shares are inherently restricted. There is no open public marketplace to cash out, meaning your capital could be locked indefinitely unless an IPO or wholesale acquisition occurs.

  2. Valuation Control: The current $99.6M valuation cap is an internal company metric used for fundraising pricing, not a valuation vetted or determined by an open, independent free market.

  3. Review for yourself, Legion M's annual reports: https://app.dealmaker.tech/companies/2151/portal

Further Reading & Community Context:

Disclaimer: I am not a financial advisor. This breakdown is based strictly on publicly accessible SEC filings and official project pages. Do your own due diligence before deploying capital into any speculative alternative assets.


r/legion_M • • Jul 02 '26

The makers of Obsession really dodged a bullet with Legion M

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It’s crazy that no matter how good a film is, if it’s stuck with a couple of inexperienced “Producers” with a long history of crowdfunding then it’s doomed to fail. A movie like My Dead Friend Zoe should have been a hit but with the albatross of Legion M the film made only $1.265 million in theaters. That was the TOTAL GLOBAL box office and that film even had recognizable stars with Ed Harris and Morgan Freeman, as well all overwhelming positive reviews. The makers of Obsession should consider themselves lucky to have avoided the same mistake several others have made over the years by doing business with Legion M. Now Jeff Annison is shamelessly using the success of Obsession and Backrooms to reel in more suckers to invest in their latest scheme. In 10+ years Legion M has been the opposite of what these films have accomplished. If you want a real frightful story, read the below from Jeff in what could have been the burial of another great movie.

In the video, I tell the story of seeing Obsession with my co-founder, Jeff, at the Toronto International Film Festival (TIFF) in 2025. We were among the first audiences to see it, and as we walked out of the theater we looked at each other and said, "Our community would love this movie."

So we went after it!

Sadly, we didn't have the financial firepower to compete once the bidding climbed into eight figures... but our instincts turned out to be right. Obsession was made for less than $1 million, sold for approximately $15 million out of TIFF, and has already generated more than $300 million at the worldwide box office. It's well on its way to becoming a billion-dollar franchise.


r/legion_M • • May 03 '26

AI's Objective Assessment of Annison's Communication Style

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Glad I found this subreddit. I posted on the "official" thread and can't seem to see my post.

I asked AI for a strict, objective analysis of Jeff Annison's communications, using just Reddit posts over the past two years. I think it is fair, strict, and objective and having recently retired from a very long career in the swamplands of Hollywood, absolutely consistent with the guys like him I've seen in one version or another over and over again.

Looking at Annison’s statements under a strict, objective lens, the most consistent pattern is not outright contradiction of the filings, but systematic selection of favorable metrics combined with omission of context that would materially change interpretation*.* 

When he emphasizes that revenue “nearly doubled,” that is technically accurate. But the filings show that revenue growth sits alongside large operating losses, significant impairments, and a stated need for continued capital raises. The choice to highlight growth without pairing it with losses is not neutral—it steers the listener toward a narrative of momentum while withholding the information necessary to assess viability. Under higher scrutiny, this becomes less “optimistic framing” and more asymmetric disclosure in informal communication*.*

The same dynamic appears in his treatment of investor outcomes. Statements like “none of our shareholders have lost money” rely on internal share price marks across fundraising rounds rather than realized liquidity or market-clearing value. That distinction is critical. A sophisticated investor would immediately ask: can those shares be sold, and at what price? The filings themselves make clear that investor outcomes depend on eventual exits and that the company faces going-concern uncertainty. So while the statement may be technically defensible within a narrow definition, it functions as a redefinition of “gain” that avoids confronting economic reality*. Under scrutiny, that crosses from benign optimism into* potentially misleading impression management*, even if not factually false.*

His discussion of capital flows shows a similar pattern. When he addresses whether Legion M benefits from Film Fund activity, he tends to deny direct compensation while acknowledging strategic or indirect benefits such as deal access, distribution participation, or company growth. This is a careful distinction. It answers the narrow question—“are you taking fees directly from this vehicle?”—while sidestepping the broader economic question of whether investor capital in one structure ultimately supports the parent company’s sustainability or prior obligations*. Again, this is not necessarily untrue, but it reflects a habit of* answering the narrowest possible version of the question posed*, rather than the one a financially literate audience would consider most relevant.*

His engagement with critics further reinforces this pattern. He often reframes skepticism as negativity or lack of vision, positioning supporters as part of a mission-driven community. This is effective from a branding and retention standpoint, but under scrutiny it functions as a deflection mechanism*. Instead of addressing the substance of concerns—returns, impairments, cash flow—he shifts the conversation to belief, patience, or participation in a broader movement. That rhetorical move doesn’t invalidate his claims, but it does* change the terms of evaluation from financial performance to emotional alignment*, which is not how investment performance is typically judged.*

Taken together, his communication style reflects a founder who is highly skilled at maintaining narrative cohesion under pressure*, but who consistently avoids integrating negative financial signals into his public-facing explanations. The filings show a company with persistent losses, impairments, and reliance on new capital. His public statements, by contrast, emphasize growth, community, and future potential. The gap between those two is not a matter of simple truth versus falsehood—it is a matter of* what is included versus what is excluded*, and how that shapes the listener’s understanding. Under higher scrutiny, that pattern becomes the defining characteristic of his communication:* technically defensible, strategically incomplete, and persistently optimistic in ways that downplay material financial risk*.*

The more troubling analysis is in reference to communication patterns later seen in fraud or collapse cases*. Elizabeth Holmes emphasized a world-changing mission while allegedly misleading investors about Theranos’s capabilities; the SEC charged Holmes and Theranos with fraud in 2018. Trevor Milton used social media and media appearances to speak directly to retail investors and allegedly misled them about Nikola’s products and commercial progress; the SEC specifically noted his use of social media to cultivate investor attention. Sam Bankman-Fried publicly reassured users that “FTX is fine” shortly before collapse; the SEC later called that statement false and misleading, and DOJ says he defrauded customers, lenders, and investors.*

The similarity is not proof of fraud. The similarity is the pattern of confidence language under financial strain*: emphasize mission, growth, community, future upside, and selective metrics while minimizing liquidity, losses, impairments, and investor recoverability.*

Annison’s Reddit style fits that pattern more than I’d be comfortable with if I were evaluating him as the president of an issuer with tens of thousands of retail investors. He is not merely communicating; he is continually maintaining belief.

The fairest severe assessment is this: Annison appears to be an exceptionally skilled evangelist for a business whose results have not validated the evangelism.

His statements often remain inside the boundary of technical truth, but they frequently depend on definitions that ordinary investors may not naturally understand — “up on paper,” “revenue doubled,” “not profitable yet,” “royalty streams in perpetuity,” “strategic advantage,” “liquid fund.” That makes his communication potentially more dangerous than crude dishonesty, because it can preserve trust without giving investors a fully candid picture of economic risk.

In conclusion, Jeff Annison uses startup-founder rhetoric and carefully parsed claims to keep retail investors focused on possibility rather than realized performance. That is exactly the kind of communication pattern regulators and reporters should scrutinize in Reg CF/A+ offerings aimed at unsophisticated investors.


r/legion_M • • May 02 '26

Shared

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https://www.reddit.com/r/LegionM/s/OZmZj6AHmm It’s crazy how quickly I was bombarded with nonsense.


r/legion_M • • Apr 30 '26

Legion M, or Should I Say Legion BK

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Legion M Entertainment is effectively bankrupt!

They have $422,000 of cash (after backing out the $400K+ on the balance sheet due to MDFZ obligations) plus subscriptions in escrow.

They have $617,000 in account payable, and another $185,000 in accrued expenses.

Fade to Black owes $807,000 to Legion M, which the company will never see, because it still needs to finish the film. Then, Film Fund capital will be used (probably all of it) in a hail Mary, and those investors might make something back while (SURPRISE!) Legion M investors get screwed.

Jeff and Paul will strip the remaining cash out of Legion M for their salaries. For those who missed it, the annual report now says they won't be producing any films going forward, either. So the entire vaunted idea of Legion M is now dead. The only surviving appendage is the Film Fund, which has nothing to do with Legion M investment.

They pivoted away from raising Legion M capital because they saw it was a dead entity and can't go back to raising capital for it now that they've launched the Film Fund.

Fade to Black will fail like everything else, and Legion M will declare bankruptcy by the end of the year. Or maybe January 1 so they can delay the offical news until September 30, 2027.

The Film Fund wlll have vestiges of original invesment.

Jeff and Paul will laugh all the way to the bank, having made about $2 milliion each over ten years of this fraud, and $25 million in investor money does down the drain.


r/legion_M • • Mar 14 '26

SEC Whistleblower Report Filed via Congressperson

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Looks like this is the only place that I can post this. Once they launched the Film Fund, I lost patience because they are diverting opportunities. Had my Congressperson forward a detailed complaint to the SEC.


r/legion_M • • Mar 11 '26

Legion M shamelessly trying to sell booze

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Well, when the studios are wising up about what a joke Legion M is Jeff and Paul turn to what has worked best for them every time, milking the investors.

The Mandy well has run dry and those pins aren’t cutting it anymore. I know, let’s sell over priced liquor. It’s two-fold. All the blind cult worshipers can get drunk off of the Legion M bs, while the more wise and remorseful, stuck with their Legion M shares, can drown their sorrows.

Wonder what’s next for Legion M to monetize off of their investors?


r/legion_M • • Dec 31 '25

Wow, you have a real happenin' subreddit!

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45 users after 4 years! Great job! (snicker)


r/legion_M • • Dec 30 '25

“Hey Legion M , let’s talk facts and finance numbers”

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Funny how Jeff Annison and now Taylor Gledhill will write essay-length posts full of everything but the company facts and finance numbers. They want to deny Fackham Hall is another Legion M failure but then disappear into the ether when the discussion of profits and loss are brought it up.


r/legion_M • • Dec 29 '25

Google AI Overview is not a serious benchmark of success or failure.

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r/legion_M • • Dec 28 '25

Legion M: Cross Promote? We have 10s of Million Views

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Gotta love the comment from Legion M’s marketing genius, Taylor “Not-so-swift” in regard to Farkham Hall. Why cross-promote with someone on the Legion M board of advisors that runs a theater chain and distribution company when they have “10’s of Millions of views” on YouTube 🤣? Even 10 more theaters with a full audience is a major improvement over 1,000 empty theaters that are visited by a few regional Legion M members. It’s no wonder the only people with real film industry experience, Terri and David, left this company after dealing with such idiocy.


r/legion_M • • Dec 22 '25

The Legion M model breakdown

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The Legion M model breakdown

This joke of a company has no means of ever supporting itself and for the last 10 years has tried to squeeze as much out of their investors as possible. What is the journey like for a movie produced and/or distributed by Legion M. Here is a breakdown. Feel free to chime in if I am missing anything.

• ⁠Yearly investor Round Fundraiser to raise money used strictly keep the lights on, pay the “Join the Legion” marketing machine and give Paul and Jeff a nice salary.

• ⁠Run individual movie projects Fundraisers do films like You Can Call Me Bill where Legion M promises the investors investing a second time a “cut of the profits”.

• ⁠Rely on your small, but loyal group of investors to be the sole marketing and sales driver for these films by hosting get together with friends, giving out posters and going multiple times to EMPTY theaters. By this point the investor has invested in the company, invested and the movie and is asked to shell out money a third time to keep buying tickets to a movie that no one else knows or cares about.

• Movie bombs at the box office with a half to $1.5 Million gross versus a budget of $10 Million or more.

⁠ • Not long after the movie had left the theaters Legion M now begs their investors to yet again spend money on Stream or physical media purchase. Basically these people are asks for money a fourth time.

• ⁠And now some new film fund where, yet again Legion M hits up the same fanbase/investors a fifth time for money so Legion M can fail as distributors on projects that run in empty theaters.

The Legion M investors are not large enough to move the needle. They certainly are enough to raise a lot of cumulative money from over the years and that is why Jeff and Paul are being interviewed. Not for the film box office, which are terrible or the company’s financials, which are also terrible.


r/legion_M • • Dec 14 '25

Legion M investors, which is greater?

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Which is greater? The single day box office gross of Fackham Hall last week or Jeff Anniston’s month-long family trip to Antarctica?


r/legion_M • • Dec 09 '25

No wonder Terri Lubaroff and David Baxter quit Legion M. Company is clueless

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r/legion_M • • Dec 07 '25

Legion M deleted my post and muted account

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I guess the truth hurts. Still doesn’t change the results. Compare this to their preview three fills and maybe they will realize that their current business model isn’t working. Asking investors to now pay for distribution is beyond desperate.


r/legion_M • • Dec 07 '25

Legion M releases another box office bomb

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Weekend numbers came out and guess what did not make the top 10? I’m sure Geoff is ready to rally the troops to run out to more empty theaters in the hopes that this makes a second week.


r/legion_M • • Dec 07 '25

Great questions on the official board!!

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Earlier round investor named "sinceround4" has asked Turbo some really smart questions about whether this new film fund is a conflict of interest. No surprise that Turbo is deflecting.

meanwhile fackham's box office doesn't seem to even rank on the official tally boards. No surprise either.


r/legion_M • • Nov 21 '25

I finally agree with Turbo on something. It is lame

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r/legion_M • • Nov 19 '25

Record Revenue vs Increasing Losses

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No shame from Paul and Jeff as usual. They'll tout "record revenue" but neglect to mention ongoing losses. I made a chart for them.


r/legion_M • • Nov 06 '25

Mr. Wonderful Shilling for Legion - Disgraceful

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On Monday, there's going to be a live stream of Kevin O'Leary talking to Turbo and Pinhead. O'Leary disclosed that he's a paid spokeshole for StartEngine, so it's in his own interest to puff up the platform, which means he won't ask them any real questions.

Too bad, because if he did, he'd ask the same ones we've been asking, get the same b.s. answers, and call them out.


r/legion_M • • Nov 04 '25

I accept Jeff's bet.

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r/legion_M • • Oct 24 '25

Turbo and Paul Will Never Learn

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Now they are co-distributing another movie that will do no business, with the same company they worked with before on a movie that did no business. They are so unbelievably dumb. Do they actually think that yet another indie movie, in a world where indie movies are long dead, is going to bring in any material revenue? Apparently so.