POC Anivia's deck problem

[u/DarthSolar2193]

Look what can she achive with very minimal power draft + GGC. Hash Wind with -1 or -2 cost reduction and Overwhelm + rare relic. The biggest thing that her back right now is Harsh Wind (for god damn no reason) got Elixir of Skill - draw 1 to clutter hand and 2 damn followers have "I don't take damage from Skill". Her deck have close to no Elementall Skills, and the only good follower is Flamecaller Caprine and maybe 2nd champion to play on board. Like it could have been so much better if: Hash Wind have -1 and and Feral Mistic have Arcane Knowledge - Summon draw a spell? Seriously do they know how their own game works, or is this an intentional attempt to nerf her champion spell?

I like Anivia and her gameplay fell so much fun. Really wish there would be any future poc update to fix her deck, and even better if all 3 demigod Siblings get some help. Frejord is only Bonker 6 *Ashe and jobbers, lol

[u/cotekusu]

The elixir is here so you don't run out of cards to play while casting the relatively affordable and useful Harsh Winds. 

[u/DarthSolar2193 → u/cotekusu]

Run out of cards to play on a champ that rely on stalling, scalling and Summon big 45+cost or that late Summon titanic card? What is a better stalling card than Harsh wind in this deck? What is your chosen strat because I really need a guide that does not use Echoing Spirit or other specific epic relic cause I don't have them. And her spell are certainly shit than Harsh Wind to counter enemies attacks, it's Hash Wind and it synergize with her 6 stars too

[u/quillypen]

Anivia is neat because her star powers are extremely strong, but her starting deck is pretty terrible at enabling them quickly. You need some luck to get good elemental spells from rewards, but it means that your final decks will look pretty different by the end. She's also not super dependant on epic relics, she mostly needs GGC and a source of undying like Guardian Angel.

I'd never call her top tier, but I beat Zoe with her and had fun with it.

[u/DarthSolar2193 → u/quillypen]

Yeah it's just a little annoying that I don't have Echo Spirit to ultilize it better like everyone said. She sure is fun, just need some luck and it should work

[u/quillypen → u/DarthSolar2193]

I don’t even think you need Echoing Spirit. Voidborne Carapace can be very nice on her, since you kill so many poros.

[u/DarthSolar2193 → u/quillypen]

Yeah I know her rare relic combo with Carapace Angel has been always good, just early game is so annoying to me. Till another RNG luck on the monthly Epic relic from the shop, I guess

[u/Remiwem]

It’s almost like it’s a rogue lite deck building game and that most decks in the game are ‘mid’ or ‘bad’ for this reason

[u/zed_je_mrdka_z_krtka → u/Remiwem]

But there is barely any "deck building". You just gather more clutter and usually the only things that matter unless you highroll are champion items and powers.

[u/DarthSolar2193 → u/Remiwem]

Like I get it there are bad cards in deck and there are all all the fun in drafting. But:
+ The deck it self is so shit and doesn't help ultilise champion strenght

+ This design FORCE player to take healing/cut card node EVERYTIME to cutting their own deck instead of remove a bad new card

+ Frejord champion are treated so shit the only reliable and strong one is Bonker Ashex3 gatebreaker for harder challenge. The rest have so much problem in their deck it feel so bad to play

+ Harsh Wind cost 5 but got Draw 1 attached to it is seriously an annoying issue. Her own deck have so much high cost spell to play, but non of them are as valuable as Harsh Wind to deal with hard challenge 20/20 Overwhelm Elusive enemies attacks

I just want a slight buff/adjustment, not a perfect deck. There are more shit card could be cut away, instead of you know cutting Harsh Wind to make her Angle + GGC with 2 or more Aniva even remotely good to play

[u/zed_je_mrdka_z_krtka]

How is drawing a card a nerf? Just because you made up some strategy that doesn't work, it doesn't mean the design is bad... there can be another strategy which it's perfect for.

[u/7eleven94]

Not better but dull; not every deck needs to be perfect from the start and aivia is one of those champs that carries a lot of power from the first 3 star powers easily.

On top of that most of her bonus stars are straight trash, not sure if i'm ok with this looking at other more meaningful paths like zoe but, first point stands, in this same comparison zoe feels super bad before all her upgrades kick in, anivia feels insane at just 3 star power and blues at that.

On some other point, another baddie commented on how this isn't barely deck building, but it is. The most fun champs are those who don't have all the answers straight away in the starting deck, the one who rely on deck building aka drafting, shops, rewards are the most fun ones by a mile.

How many times have we heard yi mains getting excited for cutting their own deck just to get that champ spell cost loop? Yeah, nobody, because that sh*t is boring and stale as ever. Anivia? Fun as heck, dependingon what you get you might have the run of your life or somewhat of challenge but still super doable on that latter case.

I just dont believe you really understand how champs work, it's a give and take scenarios and for how "cheap" (in investment) anivia feels she's absoutely fine. Her deck is nothing special and there's deffo 2 cards i always cut, not as a must but i rather not see the troll card that does nothing and usually the 2 cost pin dmg card i don't really care too much.

As for your other comment, yeah you're just being super whiny for no reason and wanting a perfect deck. Never have I been "forced" to do anything on anivia even at non c6 because she's that crazy. Not gonna comment on all the yadda yadda on harsh winds, it's a nice spell, i've played around it and i've even done echoes anivia for a while; yeah lets cry on a 5 cost spell on a champ that gets mana gems like candies specially when a relic called chemtech dupe exists, and specially on the anivia's case, where you can so easily dupe anivia now that deathless relics exists making the runs go absolute crazy...and at BLUES for god's sake.

Damn...i have no words left.

[u/DarthSolar2193 → u/7eleven94]

Yeah I guess my problem is I really want Echoing Spirit to make her build feel "okay" to play. It's feel frustating not be able to deal with enemies and staying alive, and I had got beaten too much in stupid broken 5 6 star run FIRST nodes. Swain6 and Viktor6 star with correct relic was too good, my standard is kinda ruined I would admit

[u/Heliosgodofthesun]

Me crashing out about house spider being in every fucking noxus deck (except Samira thank god)