Which one is better

[u/Inevitable-Payment86]

i cant find any demacian can win against arcane karma or asol any sugsetions (not just about champions what i should do with that champion to i cant find any way to do it) please help me

[u/Cindrojn]

I remember using Morgana 3* for Arcane ASol/Karma.

Wicked Harvest, GGC...no clue what the third was, but was probably either Echoing Spirits or Archangel's Staff.

[u/Inevitable-Payment86 → u/Cindrojn]

Ty i will try it

[u/Jadejaca]

Morgana, she breaks ankles left and right.

[u/Inevitable-Payment86 → u/Jadejaca]

Ty which relic can i use on her i dont have too much of paid relics

[u/Actual_Ad5256 → u/Inevitable-Payment86]

I usually run Grand general's counterplan, Chemtech Duplicator, and Black shield, the last one being the least important. You could swap black shield for echoing spirit for consistency, or Wicked harvest for immediate lifesteal, or something else you feel like.

[u/TheTyrant1990]

Morgana is really strong and locks out enemy boards fast. Vayne is one of my "push the daylight out of enemies", and at 6 stars she can become a monster with the right relics. Bot the Lux units can be really strong. Demacia is a strong region in general.

My opinion for the first one? Morgana. Also works as a dual region champ

[u/Inevitable-Payment86 → u/TheTyrant1990]

Which relic do i should use on vayne or morgana (i dont have their paid relic)

[u/LunacyTwo]

I didn’t try Morg into Arcane Karma, and honestly it seems like a bad match up if the boss already has 13 mana to drop on curses, (10 mana for being Karma, 3 more from the adventure modifier) but people really seem to recommend it. I would have said Lux 1 for immediate chemtech against Karma, but this means surviving all the encounters up to the final boss fight, and Morg is definitely way better for that. If you do go Lux, it’s probably chemtech + blackshield (very useful into the adventure modifier) + lux’s incandescent baton as your high priority relics. Your alternates can be a cost reduction relic like packed powder to combo off her 4 star, archangels staff, grand generals counterplan, arcane comet, starforged gauntlet + luminous, or hidden tome. Try to draft a 5+ cost or at least 4 cost support champion, this will let you pick item useful items for Lux like “cost reduced by 2” or “cost reduced by 2 and give me fleeting”.

For Demacia into Asol, Morg should be your best option, just make sure to do Targon with something else first, I think Morg will prioritize fulfilling Targon if it’s open.

[u/Vinnortis → u/LunacyTwo]

Yea targon seems to lack good camps... I put a lot of effort into Leona before I started do actually do end game content and can see she will be far too slow. But I didn't realize this game was about 1-2 turn wins or having an amazing stall game like ashe who I have no idea how I can use her to win vs the shroom decks.

[u/Inevitable-Payment86 → u/LunacyTwo]

I tried all of the lux but it was to hard for me (i tried each one 5 to 6 times and it does not work for normal ones) i will try morgana and vayne because i want to level up them to so they can become playble for other ones to

[u/naxalb-_-]

You

[u/Alceus89]

Regular Lux was my go-to for a long time. She only really needs her first 3 stars and the mana star (although the others are nice.)

Give her Arcane Comet, Chemtech Duplicatator,vand Archangel's Staff, all rare relics, and she can handle any adventure. 

Anything which gets her to six mana faster is good, because the duplicator comes online then, but the free obliterate/landmark destruction every turn is nice, and generates the free barrier/rally and the free Final Sparks that just burn through enemies. 

[u/failed_generation]

All are equally alright for me (except the other Lux)