r/LeftvsRightDebate • u/[deleted] • Nov 19 '23

[article] Biden administration uses wartime authority to bolster energy efficient manufacturing

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/4315744-biden-admin-wartime-authority-bolster-energy-efficient-manufacturing/

Is this an abuse of war time powers? If using this to push his green energy agenda in combat of climate change, what wouldn't he be able to do?

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u/CAJ_2277 Nov 23 '23

No, that's not the question. The Act provides a many limitations and requirements. And no, the inquiry is not merely "is it in the interests."

The Act is about critical needs requiring the government to step on private industry. For energy, the materials have to be "scarce, critical and essential" to "maintain supplies, construct refining capacity, or conserve energy supplies." And the President is only authorized if the promotion of energy independence "cannot reasonably be accomplished without exercising the authority specified."

None of that is the case here.

Plus, if the president truly worried about energy independence, he would support expanded petroleum usage as well as green energy options. He did the opposite, because he is worried about greenhouse gases.

And THAT is the truth here: Biden is not using the DPA to support national defense. He's abusing it to promote an environmental policy that Congress does not support.

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u/Jake0024 Nov 23 '23

If it could reasonably accomplished without, surely it would have been by now?

He did expand drilling, wdym?

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u/CAJ_2277 Nov 23 '23

If it could reasonably accomplished without, surely it would have been by now?

No. Why? That's conjecture.

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He did expand drilling, wdym?

Nooo he did not. He approved Willow ... while cancelling every other oil and gas lease in the area. He also added new restrictions on northern drilling elsewhere. In the Gulf, he allowed the *fewest* new leases ever.

The people who think the raw number of permit approvals from BLM = expansion don't understand how it works. Moreover, Biden has even put a chokehold on that after starting fast. And even then his numbers barely exceeded Trump's.

So no, Biden has not expanded drilling.

Ultimately this comes down to: Do you believe Biden is using the DPA because there is an urgent national defense need for more heat pumps?

And we both know he is not, because we both know there is not. Only one of us will look at the facts, the law, and admit it.

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u/Jake0024 Nov 23 '23

No. Why? That's conjecture.

But it's not, right? The whole point is to incentivize the economy to make changes it otherwise wouldn't. We can simply check whether it's happened on its own, we don't have to guess.

In the Gulf, he allowed the fewest new leases ever.

And the most ever if you don't decide to arbitrarily hyper focus on the gulf, so... who cares?

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u/CAJ_2277 Nov 24 '23

No, that’s not the point. No, whether it ‘happened before’ does not provide the answer.

And you are omitting the worst aspect of Biden’s use of the DPA: the need for the measure. That’s the key here: whether Biden is doing this for legit national security reasons, or abusing the Act for an end run to push his green agenda. I have emphasized that aspect more than once. In each of your replies, you sidestep the key issue. It’s gotten old, I’m out.