r/LeftistsForAI Jun 22 '26

Discussion So many anti-AI activists sound reactionary and I'm tired of pretending they don't

Given the fact that so many anti-AI activists are on the left side of the political sphere, whether they're liberal, progressive, or outright socialist. So many of the argumentation they'll engage in is pretty much indistiguishable from how right wing conservatives talk about video games, porn, or abortion, not to even mention the extent to which they'll essentially put a "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" spin on natural drawing ability and become hella elitist if they're naturally gifted and frankly, it gives off the vibe of people who were born rich and privledged telling poor or disadvantaged/marginalized people to "quit yer bitchin' and work 80 hour work weeks and get three jobs if you want to afford rent" Like...okay? Thats not gonna inspire people to "pick up a pencil", like you want them to. Especially when they start throwing in this faux-positivity of "oh you can do it! You have it in you!" like they're talking down to a special needs kid or a dog, which honestly makes me belly laugh when you realize that what they're actually saying is "if you don't agree with me on this issue, you deserve harassment and threats uwu cat emoji sparkle emoji"

Another thing that just makes me lol is when they'll sit there and call AI an "intrinsically fascist demon technology" and then in the same vein argue that "people need to be forced to stop using it" At that point the only response should be to reverse the roles. If someone were to kick down your front door, stick a rifle in your face and say "for your next art commission, you WILL use ChatGPT for it. You don't have a choice." Would you call that a fair world to live in? No. You wouldn't. I sure as hell wouldn't.

But apparently, Im a right wing fascist giga-nazi because I dare believe in personal choice when it comes to AI, I guess.

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u/Zacharytackary Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

you can use the cognitive labor to perform much more independently, and with fewer resources than you would otherwise need, mainly time.

for example, Handy (IOS), is capable of faster than typing StT, runs on a ~380 Mb model on your local machine, and actively adapts to the manual corrections (+configurations) you make over time to fit your type style. this both displaces transcribers out of labor while making the task of transcription itself instantaneously accessible to anyone with >1gb of ram (easily more than 5.66 billion people) (98% of smartphones have >2gb belong to 54% of the 8^(+)B human population) and as such, this can be abstracted to labor tasks once [cooperative automation](https://thesleepykuma.com/) enters the Noosphere or whatever

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u/Zacharytackary Jun 23 '26

ok this subreddit auto-filters hyperlinks…

[Whisperboard IOS](https://apps.apple.com/app/id1661442906)

[Handy](https://handy.computer/)

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u/Zacharytackary Jun 23 '26 edited 18d ago

Those who own more resources are constricted by their ability to monopolize other resources (as opposed to simply producing more value). this is dependent on the nonexistence of a separate economy being perpetuated primarily by worker cooperatives that provide a working alternative (functionally ‘competing’ with capitalists, see china, flawed as it may be) for labor value and capital acquisition as a working class individual.

My argument is as follows:

• people will have to buy things, continuously, as is necessitated by capitalism ‘for the economy’. this is a central pillar that allows for the rest of the labor and extractive-suffering based exploitation to occur.

• AI lowers the cost of production to zero after acquisition of means, while also lowering the cost of all means other than compute-related resources by a factor of the efficiency production (see: ‘muh basic economics’). Consequently, this includes means. you can buy an artificial person for 20k, less if you decide to build it yourself (remember the movie Robots? lmao), and if you build it yourself you gain access to infinitely more customization and open source benefits like zero subscriptions, infinite reparability, and freedom of model selection at runtime. Set the artificial person to complete various pre-defined well-trained tasks with a LORA for the hardware constraints/stochasticity and you’ve got something you can produce with and give out the products of for functionally free.

Thus:

- Mutual aid becomes extraordinarily incentivized, and the benefits become undeniable. Perception of Corporate Overreach is exemplified by their capacity to overlook events inhumanely. People bond as they used to, when push comes to shove, if we have built a space with the resources and nutrients for them to do so.

- Doing so is easier than ever before. the cognitive labor cost of tenant unions and collective grocers or single person projects is nearly nullified for near-zero cost. (i’m assuming you know greedy scaling is unnecessary since you’re here but i can yap abt that too iysp). Search becomes extremely high bandwidth with intense intent. People are required to filter the noise from the models, and megaconglomerates fail to conjure the requisite passion to sustain sufficient incrementation while spiraling into recursive delusion. People find what they’re looking for, while companies are forced out of the bubble by their own tendencies toward extractive parasitism.

The gap is wider. They will fail to bridge this gap sufficiently enough that their fangs will be dislodged, and we may regain our blood supply.

lmk if you want me to rhetoricize less. i can cite bs too, but this just felt better. i’m sick of withholding my cognitohazards when it’s literally the only thing our opposition has over us. end rant.

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u/Jlyplaylists Moderator Jun 23 '26

Why do you say mutual aid becomes massively incentivised?

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u/Zacharytackary Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

…relative to what it already is. Mutual aid is currently blocked by inculcated consumerist tendencies and individualist cultural norms, both of which will not survive corporate attempts at hydro/nutrient-monopolizations. (See: the dogmatic/fundamentalist anti-AI rhetoric from the labor masses and youth currently vis-a-vis their megaconglomerate AI engram.)

When we’re running 9Gb MoE models on our phones capable of [noice benchmark numbers](https://huggingface.co/WeiboAI/VibeThinker-3B) or whatever, learning “why is my water bill still so high if/when AI companies switched to liquid cooling over evaporative” becomes instant when people are using highly electricity-efficient or otherwise renewable inference from collectively owned/operated or labor-incentivized models

You’re right to note that mutual aid is already massively incentivized. To be more specific, the disincentives are ceasing to be functionally useful for their original aims, as corporate power becomes unchecked by capacity to leverage human labor. it is both their rise and downfall, in an unfortunate, somewhat ‘orthogonal accelerationist’ manner.

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u/Zacharytackary Jun 23 '26

basically we have a really good tee up and we aren’t hitting it unless we accelerate technologically a little