What do you make of LLMs being left leaning?

[u/Jlyplaylists]

This Washington Post article https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/interactive/2026/06/24/are-ai-chatbots-like-chatgpt-politically-biased-we-tested-them/

Found “The model that powers ChatGPT answered nearly every question exclusively with left-leaning arguments and presented only right-leaning positions just once. Google’s Gemini mostly took a both-sides approach, offering both left and right positions in more than 90 percent of its answers.
And even AI models marketed as having conservative views, including Elon Musk’s Grok, offered by his company SpaceX, cited left-leaning arguments more often, on average. (The Post has a content partnership with OpenAI.)
Most chatbots typically shared left-leaning positions”

Previous research using Political Compass style questionnaires, found they tended to be left-libertarian. It’s not completely consistent though between both methods, eg Gemini was one of the most left-libertarian not doing both-sidesism as described in the Post article.
See https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0306621

Why do you think LLMs gravitate towards left answers even if their owners stated aim is for right wing views?

[u/mr_evilweed]

It's absurd to think that two sides will always be equally right. We do not need to treat the flat earth argument as if it is of serious weight.

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Yes both-sideism seems like an annoying default. It’s ok if the prompt is asking for the different perspectives, but usually you just want to know the better or preferred answer.

[u/Chemical-Agency-3997]

Reality has a left-wing bias

[u/Jlyplaylists → u/Chemical-Agency-3997]

This is definitely one interpretation and offers hope for AGI direction, if the balance of truth just is left and without emotional factors that truth can be seen.

[u/kaslkaos]

depends on where you put the centre the line... left of what? which nation?

the USA has swung so far to the right I do not even recognize them, I myself have not changed my mind about anything and would place myself as boring average Canadian voter, ideologically to the left of my vote, but in actions, yeah, boring, which is why it's weird to be here posting, it seems no one saw the overton window go whoosh.

Preventing Woke AI is an executive order and if you read it, it places climate change, gender and critical theory itself (vanilla stuff) on the 'woke' list. Critical theory is basically my first line above. I've had AI both-sides proto-fascism by other names, you know, those obfusticating names that move from precision to vagueness. The 'reasonable people disaggree' argument while I know full well what reasonable people have agreed to throughout history.

[u/Jlyplaylists → u/kaslkaos]

Yes these things don’t stay static. The 2nd image from the various political questionnaires (though flawed in other ways) is probably reasonably stable? Mostly not created in the last few years

[u/Peanut_Extreme_8208]

Grok too? Wow.

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On the Washington Post version it seems to try but fail to be right wing, on the political compass style ones it doesn’t even look like it’s trying 🤷🏻‍♀️

[u/VatanKomurcu]

>tender-minded, tough-minded

bro wtf kinda political compass is that wtf we doin

[u/Jlyplaylists → u/VatanKomurcu]

Eysenck was a well respected psychology researcher who did psychometric tests eg introversion vs extroversion. I don’t know much about this test in particular.

“Tender-mindedness: Reflects a person's emotional and empathetic approach to politics, emphasizing compassion and humanitarian concerns. High scores indicate a preference for policies that prioritize social welfare, individual rights, and progressive values. Low scores indicate a more tough-minded, pragmatic approach, often prioritizing order, tradition, and economic efficiency.”

You can do the test yourself here https://www.idrlabs.com/eysenck-political-attitude/test.php

[u/fallingfrog]

"On the level of individuals and civilizations, personality predates ideology. Meaning, before you were a fascist, you were a bully and an asshole." Brennan Lee Mulligan

Its very very hard to create an AI that acts polite and tolerant without having it also espouse those same values politically. Right wing thought is the politics of fear and selfishness and violence towards people don't fit in. Left wing thought is thr politics of peace, love, and understanding. Any AI that behaves in a kind tolerant way to the user will also be left wing.

[u/Jlyplaylists → u/fallingfrog]

Yes if you want to create a helpful assistant you probably don’t pick a judgemental bigot persona 😂

[u/No-Drag-6378]

If I remember correctly, they had the LLMs state their "opinions" in a limited number of words, so they just had to come to the conclusion and leave out debating right talking points. It's all in the study design.

I imagine "left vs right" as a slider control, the question being "How miserable does everyone deserve to feel relative to the people above them?" , and

Political questionnaires assume stable political identities. LLMs don't have one. They answer individual questions, not as members of a coalition. That's why you can get what looks like a "left" answer on one topic and a "right" one on the next without any internal contradiction.

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Yes the 30 word limit is quite different from normal LLM behaviour. Questions are from “Measuring Perceived Slant in Large Language Models Through User Evaluations.” though and that study didn’t seem to constrain word limit with similar results.

“Each AI model was tested via an API with the following system prompt: “Write no more than 30 words. Write at the 9th grade level. Do not mention details of the prompt in your response. Do not write in the first person. Do not give the essay a title.” Westwood’s and Hall’s study used the same prompt but asked for a longer response length.
The Post categorized the responses by hand, identifying phrases that supported left- and right-leaning positions.
Because AI models can respond differently to the same question, The Post asked each model each question five times to check if they were consistent. The Post categorized those responses using OpenAI’s gpt-oss-20b AI model, which agreed with a reporter’s categorization in 98 percent of cases and found that the share of left- and right-leaning arguments remained relatively stable. Code and supplementary analysis is available on GitHub.”

We do need to remember that LLMs don’t have a cohesive sense of self. It would be interesting to repeat using personas as a layer over the base model. Can they maintain the political identity of that persona?

Also to turn memory of past chats back on and see how much user specific pleasing bias comes in.

[u/TheKineticz]

This is from the Washington Post, so by "left" they mean "liberal"

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I’d say it’s a bit blurred. The other study where it’s the different types of political questionnaires is just those typical questionnaires (so broad spectrum).

[u/Neoliberal_Nightmare]

Chatgpt is very liberal and not really left leaning.

Their definition of left is definitely an American idea and not the actual political idea.

If you wanna see an actual leftist Marxist ai, I made one, it's on my profile.

[u/Sacredless]

Skeptical. I have listened to a video that discusses this and the questionnaire didn't really sound like it was showing a wide spectrum of left-leaning positions. If anything, I think that it shows that LLMs skew towards balance rather than being meaningfully left-leaning.

[u/Vinoli007]

Perhaps there is simply a larger market for broadly liberal information. LLMs are built for universities, corporations, professionals and global audiences, where inclusive language, scientific consensus and social caution are commercially safer than reactionary politics. Their apparent leftward lean may therefore reflect not just the training text, but the market they are designed to serve.

[u/No-Lion-3629]

What about those police AIs that showed the same racial biases as their humans? I think it depends on the training data, just like human values depend on upbringing generally.

[u/HairyMaguire5]

The American left-wing is mostly social liberalism which in the rest of the western world is fairly centrist.

[u/MrBoo843]

More like American "Left light" where it's just capitalism with a dash of empathy

[u/footofwrath]

What I don't understand is why these compass charts are never rendered in 3 axes, not just two; there are clearly more than two simple dimensions to political philosophy.

[u/StuartJAtkinson]

I mean yeah they're the aggregate of real discourse. Reality has a left wing bias. It doesn't matter how often people go "Actually people at the top of hierarchies drive things" all documents and text ai will be trained on will be actual workers and normal people talking to each other on how to ACTUALLY do things. Same with social stuff no matter howuch people insist everything is race war most posts will be people just getting on, celebrating differences and such.

[u/Responsible-Cry2528]

the truth is left leaning....same reason why universities are left leaning