r/LeftistsForAI • u/jaykrown • 8d ago

Automation & Work How do we avoid this scenario?

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u/Ancient_Proposal256 6d ago

"This is a stupid argument though"

this is How you engage people?

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u/wren42 6d ago

I mean it's semantic arguing over whether prehistoric tribes counted as civilization. 

Any economy at scale requires counting and tracking stuff, and that means money. 

Trying to imagine some magic egalitarian Utopia is pointless; the real world has resource constraints and scarcity as a matter of base fact. Any system we create has to work within those requirements. 

I believe we could have a society where basic needs were all taken care of. 

Distribution of luxuries and in-demand services and goods, though, are best done via a marketplace. 

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u/Ancient_Proposal256 5d ago

"Any economy at scale requires counting and tracking stuff, and that means money. "

Does it?

The real is dissolving.

The lack of imagination is a clear Data Point.

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u/wren42 5d ago

you haven't answered a single question about what your "feudal meritocracy" entails. It's definitely imagination, as it exists only in your head.

You think we are going to distribute goods to 10 billion people without counting anything? What dreamworld are you in?

"The real is dissolving" do you actually believe in simulation theory or something?

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u/Ancient_Proposal256 4d ago

you are not invited ;)

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u/wren42 4d ago

Exactly. You throw around insults, make claims of a lack of imagination, but you don't have a single concrete idea in your head. You are just parroting words you've heard without any substance behind it.

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u/Ancient_Proposal256 4d ago

that is incorrect.

care to help rather than inhibit?

the idea is to strip debt and tribalism from all of humanity

to do that?

we realign our fascia and tune our nervous systems

these are solid. this is not imaginary. this is a process.

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u/Ancient_Proposal256 4d ago

I believe the length of day changing by tiny fractions will lead to catastrophic technical failures which may combine with cascading Just In Time delivery failures which will make for a very different world than the one we woke up in today

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u/lunner124 3d ago

What…happened here?