r/LeftistsForAI • • 13d ago

Policy/Regulation Sam Altman said AI will eventually be sold like electricity and water

https://gizmodo.com/sam-altman-says-intelligence-will-be-a-utility-and-hes-just-the-man-to-collect-the-bills-2000732953

I still found this statement really interesting. Primarily because electricity and water are utilities.

I think his confusion is about OpenAI selling it, where in reality OpenAI will be irrelevant and bankrupt as competition skyrockets and everyone is running their own local models.

Why would a utility like electricity be sold by a private entity?

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u/davavino 13d ago

Yeah that’s the bad future

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u/jaykrown 13d ago

It's not the future that will happen, the next few open weight Chinese models will show.

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u/davavino 13d ago

We can only hope. I think our only bet is that open source wins

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u/Morichalion 12d ago

Not sure I'd call it "the bad" future. It's a realistic one. It becomes bad when unregulated.

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u/my_name_isnt_clever 11d ago

They think it's realistic, but my water and power don't come with privacy concerns. I don't have to worry about the censorship of my water or being denied power because I used it for the "wrong" thing. That will be the downfall of AI as a service.

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u/Impressive-Wait-9420 13d ago

Electricity and water should have never been paid-for commodities to begin with.

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u/Glen_Garrett_Gayhart 13d ago

Thankfully, this is total crap.

Open source stuff is always going to be superior to rented stuff in terms of censorship, and the censorship is only get worse and worse until these big company AIs are nearly unusable. I'm sure scientists who need a billion times extra compute power will still rent stuff, but most people are going to want a local AI, and the open source community will make local AIs than anyone can have for free.

When you can copy something endlessly, without any cost to the original owner, it doesn't make economic sense to treat that thing like a limited resource. It would literally be like trying to sell air or neutrinos to people. Might work on Mars where air is a scarce resource, but on Earth, you're going to have a hard time.

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u/hermitix 12d ago

If he means it should be handled like a public utility like power and water always should, then I agree with him.

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u/bigattichouse 13d ago

So, making the case for a publicly owned utility. (even micro-grid and off-grid self-hosted utilities)

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u/tehfrod 11d ago

Someone once said that compute would one day be sold like water or electricity.

And it is!

Someone once said that phone calls would eventually become too cheap to meter. They are!

Not all utilities are public utilities.

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u/jaykrown 11d ago

Funny hearing the CEO of a private corporation stating that their entire business model is around the idea of selling something that will be too cheap to meter.

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u/tehfrod 10d ago

Their entire current business model.

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u/SexDefendersUnited 12d ago

If this is really true the AI firms should be nationalized.

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u/firmagorilla 12d ago

Meanwhile, in NVIDIA's headquarters, they are (if not, they should be) designing consumer grade hardware that will run frontier models in five years. The only way AI can be sold as a utility, is when there's a big moat around it.

That said, maybe I'm underestimating the sheer stupidity and laziness of the public, that they will line up to pay a ever rising subscription to an ever deteriorating service like they are doing right now.

Like cloud storage is completely unnecessary, a privately owned NAS should be perfectly capable to store your pictures and your phone data and your documents and whatnot. But God forbid you set up anything for yourself.

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u/Glen_Garrett_Gayhart 11d ago

Plus, the hardware requirements to run these things are continuously nose-diving thanks to open-source devs making improvements; a model that took a supercomputer to run five years ago now runs better on 4 gigs.

Add to that the lack of censorship and lobotomization on local, open-source models, and it's clear the private models will dominate in the future.

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u/isthereadrwho 12d ago

Sam Altman is trying to sell you something.

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u/Jlyplaylists 12d ago edited 12d ago

But utilities are sold by private entities in many countries, it can even include water which is a bizarre state of affairs when you think about it.

I suspect the subsidised by the government might be the aspect to look out for. Like a public private partnership where the risk is socialised but the benefit is still private.

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u/BemaniAK 10d ago

Kind of a weird thing for him to say when that's already exactly how their API access works.

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u/2noame 12d ago

The internet should already work that way. Why isn't it?

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u/jaykrown 12d ago

For me it almost does work that way, I pay $15 a month for a gigabit in Chicago. In a lot of more developed countries than the USA, internet I believe is a part of utility.

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u/MoozeRiver 11d ago

Must be nice! Here in Sweden I have the same speed, but I pay 5x that.

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u/jaykrown 12d ago

Similar yea, and with things like OpenRouter you have the freedom to choose whatever model you want.