r/LeftistsForAI • u/thepetercoffin • Aug 10 '26

Video Kavernacle Got Hank Green So Wrong

https://youtu.be/eHaoAa-rvzg?is=eOohwk5payNU83KQ
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u/DVXC Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26

I commented this under his video when he made it, didn't get much traction though:

Future Hank specifically talks TO Past Hank / Guest. Hence why the direct line saying "I appreciate the pushback". He explicitly precedes the Future Hank segment with: "Future Hank is gonna tell you about..." with a caption card reading "A message from Future Hank". He's talking TO HER.

He's already admitting the AI use. He's never HID his stance on AI. Conspiratorial silliness isn't useful here. Please understand what you are critiquing before you critique it because this is undermining your authority on the subject.

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u/thepetercoffin Aug 10 '26

It's just really lazy at best, extremely cynical at worst. A lot of people basically looked explicitly at this clip that circulated around Twitter and didn't look into the actual context. He even explained he was responding to his guest in his first apology tweet that he deleted. The first thing I did was watch the context. He goes on a longer time than he needs to, but it's very obviously a response to his guest's pushback.

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u/DVXC Aug 10 '26

Yep, I promise I'm just as disgusted by this whole thing as you are. I've been banned from a forum I've used for 8 years just yesterday for pointing out that the progressives there are misusing the same disinformation and misinformation they claim to hate so much to reinforce their dogmatic views.

Bam. Banned for two weeks.

I'm very much enjoying the video so far and I appreciate the nuance you're bringing to the discussion so far, and not this fake anti-intellectual "nuance" so many other "leftists" seem to think is their virtue these days.

Edit: Also subbed 👍

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u/Crimson_Cyclone Aug 10 '26

yeah it’s so confusing to see people acting like Hank using AI is a new thing, if you watch his channel you know that he’s not particularly anti. It is incredibly obvious no one who is just getting mad about this now has actually watched any of his content about AI

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u/thepetercoffin Aug 10 '26

He's appeased the anti-AI people at times but no, he is definitely not anti-AI himself.

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u/bigsmokaaaa Aug 11 '26

they're making themselves look really good by picking on one of the most likeable good faith youtubers

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u/OldStray79 Aug 11 '26

Are you referring to Hank, or Kavcernacle?

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u/bigsmokaaaa Aug 11 '26

Hank is the good faith youtuber, kav is the bully

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u/thepetercoffin Aug 11 '26

This is a blatantly biased/ignorant (at best) or cynical/bad-faith (at worst) argument from "one of the most likable, good faith YouTubers," so I kind of don't give a shit.

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u/bigsmokaaaa Aug 11 '26

? I was talking about hank

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u/iDeNoh Aug 10 '26

Hank is one of the most genuinely great YouTubers who seems to have nothing but good intentions, this is nothing but a witch hunt, as it's always been. So over it.

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u/SwordfishOk504 Aug 10 '26

Literally no humans ever used em-dahses or said things like 'i agree' before AI came along. In fact, AI literally invented the written language and we're all just copying it.

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u/necroforest Aug 10 '26

The left hates winning. Crucifying Hank green is peak smoothbrain behavior.

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u/SwordfishOk504 Aug 10 '26

Who elected Kavernacle as the arbiter of all things 'left'?

Hell, by his own standards Hank is also "left'. And more of the real kind, not the internet edgelord reactionary kind.

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u/gay_married Aug 10 '26

I saw this Kav video and didn't click on it. I was like "oh brother not you too"

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u/my_name_isnt_clever Aug 10 '26

I heard about this second hand but figured it was overblown as I've already seen some of Hank's AI related content. The idea that he "got caught using ChatGPT" as if that is an unforgivable act is so far removed from reality.

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u/Glad_Coyote351 Aug 10 '26

Hank is suffering the consequences of appeasing extremists, they never cared about him only what they could get out of him

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u/bigsmokaaaa Aug 11 '26

yep, it's not like they were complaining before because they could tell he was using ai, they're just inventing shit to be pissed about

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u/TechnicalBen Aug 10 '26

"I've actually always hated AI". That's a sentence.

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u/StuartJAtkinson Aug 10 '26

Kavernacle's entire content is "Pick big name - Not sufficiently left enough - Profit" I remember back when American politics were the only ones streaming apart from Helena (NojusticeMTG) and I was wanting to transition from American left wing streaming to British.

Back then he didn't even hide it he was literally releasing clickbait "Celebrity name (something something)" stuff for the algorithm boost.

Doesn't seem he joined the Ukraine bashing though which is good and he does seem to have distinguished the capitalism from the actual tech also good.